K1100LT overhaul

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG, Nov 23, 2006.

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    platypus Guest

    So, when are you selling it?
     
    platypus, Nov 23, 2006
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    ts Guest

    The drilled original front disks are apparently prone to cracking. Is
    this more likely a result of use of pattern instead of BMW pads?
    Admirable for brand loyalty. But I would have considered fitting
    aftermarket quality suspension, especially if I had decided to keep the
    bike for a couple of years. When selling the bike on, I'd refit the
    original shock, and sell the aftermarket shock separately.
    Agreed; expert knowledge applied to such a bike is good value for money
    when you are likely to get back the "investment" from your own use of
    the bike.

    Now ride carefully - remember that it never before has been as much at
    risk of being written off by a careless 4x4 owner . . .
     
    ts, Nov 23, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    Now there's a thing, you see. I was in my revered motor factor's
    place the other day and he asked me to look at a bottle of oil.
    Volkswagen branded oil in a pristine white bottle, it was. Loads of
    tiny print on the back of it, all in Hun obviously, made no sense
    whatsoever. The thing is, this oil is what VW insist on for warranty
    reasons. Eleven quid a litre and no indication of what it is. No
    grade, no dino/synth indication, no API ratings. **** knows, eh?
     
    Pip, Nov 23, 2006
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    peter Guest

    Not even runes along the lines of VW 505.01 or such like?
     
    peter, Nov 23, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    Well Cooper Group used Castrol, non of your expensive BMW stuff and I
    also use 20/50 in the R100, cheap but decent stuff changed regularly.
     
    Hog, Nov 23, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    It's a doddle to do. Just have a small torque wrench to hand for the
    re-installation, or a helicoil kit.
     
    Hog, Nov 23, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    There may well have been, now you mention it. I'm off a'googlin' to
    get to the bottom of this.
     
    Pip, Nov 24, 2006
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    CT Guest

    My A3 needs a specific VW 503 or 505 rated oil for the variable
    servicing.

    Incidently, are Audi the only manufacturer to supply a litre bottle of
    the stuff in a handy little plastic holder in the boot?

    Mine does use a lot of oil, esp. on stop/start commuting trips so I
    guess it's there for a reason.
     
    CT, Nov 24, 2006
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    Pete Fisher Guest


    There has been a lot of discussion about this on Briskoda. There is a
    Castrol alternative that are acknowledged to be acceptable for the VW
    spec oil recommended for the variable servicing regime on the 2.0 TDi
    PD140 engine like mine. That may be the case for the other VW specs. No
    oil supplied for pikey Skodas - although unsurprisingly you can buy
    Skoda packaged oil.

    It did drink a bit at first but is settling down having reached 15000
    miles.

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    Pete Fisher, Nov 24, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    VW also reckon the new Golf can go 25k miles without an oil change as
    well.

    I was quite skeptical when my Dad told me that about my Mum's GTI.
     
    Ben, Nov 24, 2006
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    Tim Guest

    BMW Sawbridgeworth used to use Castrol, but I have been a BMW-free zone
    for a while now so it may have changed. TOG's service sound like very
    good value.
     
    Tim, Nov 24, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    Use of any other oil will affect the ability of the service indicator
    circuitry to make the right decision, allegedly. I read a very
    interesting article last night about VW/Audi and the tendency of their
    1.8T engine to sludge up with black crap unless the proper oil was
    used. It affected so many engines particularly in the US that they
    allowed warranty claims against proof of servicing - and then extended
    their (transferable) warranty on the engine for up to eight years.
    Probably, although Suzuki should consider doing similar and building
    in a stash for a 5 litre can for their K-series Bandits.
    Guess it is.
     
    Pip, Nov 24, 2006
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    CT Guest

    That's what is said in the owner's handbook.
    Mine's a 2.0 FSI. Last time I had the oil changed, the mechanic said
    that the oil looked a bit sludgy. It had done about 12000 miles at the
    time.
    heh. I was on the M4/M32 going into Bristol the last time I left it a
    bit long and the oil warning light came on. In my frustration to get
    off the motorway and to a garage to get the correct oil, I totally
    forgot about the bottle in the boot! I won't forget again, I can tell
    you.
     
    CT, Nov 24, 2006
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    I think I would be about a petrol engine, but there are those that say
    modern oils are up to the job.

    The brain on the Octavia is predicting 18000 for first service (24000
    max allowed). Sounds about right given the use it gets. Few very short
    runs and those aren't such an issue on a diesel anyway. The oil is black
    as a bat already, but I am trusting the contamination sensors (how do
    they work I wonder?).

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    Pete Fisher, Nov 24, 2006
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Castrol Edge 5-30 doesn't fool them allegedly (they would say that
    wouldn't they). I can't see Castrol risking saying it is suitable on the
    pack if it isn't. The Briskoda lot reckon the brain is more likely to
    shout foul and demand servicing sooner if you use more than half a litre
    or so of the wrong stuff.

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    Pete Fisher, Nov 24, 2006
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    Ace Guest

    No. Jude's peugeot (206cc 2.0l) came with one of these, with velcro to
    attach it to the floor mat. Good idea, what?
    We've never needed to top hers up.

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    Ace, Nov 24, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    The article I read (complete with a copy of an official warranty
    extension letter) inferred that part of the problem was that American
    service personnel were not accustomed to the "European style" engines
    - light, efficient and highly stressed in order to minimise
    emissions(1) and were likely to drain the super efficient and highly
    expensive German oil out and replace it with 20/50 dino juice that all
    them agricultural V8s know and love, bless their shiny red necks.


    1. USA average car mpg: 27. Euro average car mpg: 40.
     
    Pip, Nov 24, 2006
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    Ben Guest

    Dad was a bit skeptical as well and has done oil changes every 10k on
    top of the normal servicing.

    Ford reckon my Fester needs it every 12.5k which is more believable,
    but even they want a particular Ford oil. Although they do say that a
    Castrol variant is acceptable as well..
     
    Ben, Nov 24, 2006
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    DR Guest

    I'd like to point out that mine has been exceedingly civilised as far
    as lubricant consumption is concerned; despite the fact that it's only
    managed about 9,000 miles so far (oh, the shame) I have noticed no
    significant oil-burning (i.e. none) to date. AFAIK it was the K1 and
    K2 which had over-zealously and unnecessarily enlarged oil galleries
    to the head, which caused the issue in the first place; from the K3
    (like mine) onwards this was returned to normal. Someone at Suzuki
    decided that an engine which was itself a byword for reliability
    needed more oil, and got it wrong, by a considerable margin. Hopefully
    their tanto was well lubricated shortly afterwards.

    As always, I stand ready to be corrected...
     
    DR, Nov 24, 2006
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    Dan L Guest

    Pip tossed off:
    Interesting

    My last 2 VW's were both main dealer serviced, and always had VW
    (Quantum) oil in them (they always left the part used cannister in the
    boot, which (particularly with the Golf's voracious appetite for oil)
    was a good thing.

    Last time I took the Passat in for a service they had switched over to
    Castrol (approved by VW, apparently), and left a small pack in the boot
    containing a sealed 1L cannister, paper funnel, vinyl gloves and a
    sachet of VW approved screenwash (any thing else blocks the nozzles,
    apparently).

    As I no longer have a VW, but had an almost full cannister of Quantum
    oil for VW diesel engines, I poured this into the SO Hyundai when I did
    it's fluids, with (so far) no ill effects.

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    1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr

    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6)
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    OMF#11
     
    Dan L, Nov 25, 2006
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