Katrina, a bad Girl.

Discussion in 'Texas Bikers' started by BJayKana, Sep 1, 2005.

  1. BJayKana

    BJayKana Guest

    It's very likely, that New Orleans will not ever be back to normal. I
    can't imagine how they'll get those multi-millions of gallons of water
    pumped out. Some say, 3 to 6 months of constant pumping, and that is
    after the pumps are working, and that is after the power is fixed, and
    that's after the levys are fixed,and thats after all the people are
    rescued, and that's after the million or so people are evacuated, and
    that's after the dead is taken care of.

    How is this gonna be finaced. Surely this will bankrupt everthing from
    Insurance Companys, on down to every business in the coastal parts of
    Lousiana, Miss., Alabama, and throw in some of Florida.

    There's a couple of little townships, in Lousiana, that were washed
    away, almost Where are all those people, from, just say New Orleans,
    gonna live, for the next year or so? The Federal system will have to
    support them, for a long time. Because we're talking 2 or 3 million,
    folks that are homeless, and jobless, and on and on.

    And throw in the looting going on, and what will that lead to?
    It is devestating. just, devestating.

    (BJAY)
     
    BJayKana, Sep 1, 2005
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    Wakko Guest

    New Orleans was never what I call "normal".
    And I'm optimistic that it will bounce back quick.

    It is that. Every bit as much a disaster as a tsunami.
    Time to give the Red Cross a call.
     
    Wakko, Sep 1, 2005
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    ShadowHawk Guest

    Speaking of "normal" and lack thereof...

    A neighbor just came over to tell us that she's heard that there's
    *evidence* that the hurricane was - get this - a "Manufactured Hurricane" -
    That's right.. man-made, and literally *aimed* by PEOPLE at the US to
    destroy us... This nut-job down the street *BELIEVES THIS*. My bet is
    that she heard it on the 700-Club or somesuch "reputable" source (or mmaybe
    her Church.. - I'll ask her next time I see her)

    Rex S.
     
    ShadowHawk, Sep 1, 2005
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  4. BJayKana

    Bill Walker Guest

    Phew.. there's no accounting for the silliness that some Americans can
    bring to bear, is there ? hmmm.. Maybe that silliness can explain why our
    leaders have been able to justify some of the outrageous actions and
    decisions that have been so disastrous ..Men like Pat Robertson have managed
    to manipulate people like this.. the same way that George Bush has done ..
    tsk .. tsk.. Is it any wonder that America is fast becoming a nation that we
    no longer can recognize.??

    Bill Walker
    Irving
     
    Bill Walker, Sep 1, 2005
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  5. BJayKana

    BJayKana Guest

    ‘‘Phew.. there's no accounting for the silliness that some
    Americans can bring to bear, is there ? hmmm.. Maybe that silliness can
    explain why our leaders have been able to justify some of the outrageous
    actions and decisions that have been so disastrous ..Men like Pat
    Robertson have managed to manipulate people like this.. the same way
    that George Bush has done .. tsk .. tsk.. Is it any wonder that America
    is fast becoming a nation that we no longer can recognize.??
    (Bill Walker)

    ‘‘Phew.. is right. Bill, your response above, is remarkable, in
    that it has absolutely nothing to do with the catastrophy, caused by the
    largest Hurricane ever, of which has about wiped our a large city, the
    city of New Orleans, and you see a human fault? The majority of
    Americans down south in our great states of Lousiana, Mississippi, and
    Alabama are now hurricane survival refugees. This is a historical
    event, because I don't think America has ever had tens of thousands of
    refugees to save. We've helped to save refugees of almsot every Nation
    in the world. Now we need their help. (BJAY)
     
    BJayKana, Sep 1, 2005
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  6. BJayKana

    Bill Walker Guest

    ''Phew.. there's no accounting for the silliness that some
    Americans can bring to bear, is there ? hmmm.. Maybe that silliness can
    explain why our leaders have been able to justify some of the outrageous
    actions and decisions that have been so disastrous ..Men like Pat
    Robertson have managed to manipulate people like this.. the same way
    that George Bush has done .. tsk .. tsk.. Is it any wonder that America
    is fast becoming a nation that we no longer can recognize.??
    (Bill Walker)

    ''Phew.. is right. Bill, your response above, is remarkable, in
    that it has absolutely nothing to do with the catastrophy, caused by the
    largest Hurricane ever, of which has about wiped our a large city, the
    city of New Orleans, and you see a human fault? The majority of
    Americans down south in our great states of Lousiana, Mississippi, and
    Alabama are now hurricane survival refugees. This is a historical
    event, because I don't think America has ever had tens of thousands of
    refugees to save. We've helped to save refugees of almsot every Nation
    in the world. Now we need their help. (BJAY)

    Yessir.. I do see a human fault.. I see a "human fault" in almost all the
    disasters that have plagued America for many years.. For years.. our
    government have been warned of the dangers in the neglect of the flood
    plains contained in the gulf states, especially New Orleans.. The warnings
    were ignored by this administration . Some of the best environmental
    engineers in our country made recommendations to prepare for disasters such
    as this were also ignored.. Matter of fact the existing budgets were cut and
    the funding that was approved never materialized substantially..

    The governor of Mississippi, Haley Barbour also made recommendations which
    were contrary to the what was being advocated by the engineering minds .. He
    ignored them as the Bush administration ignored the recommendations to ease
    the exposure in New Orleans.. This isn't a phenomenon that has developed
    since that category five hurricane, Katrina devastated our gulf coast..
    These warnings and recommendations have been in evidence for quite a few
    years..

    Money that was appropriated for the purpose of shoring up the gulf coast to
    prepare for disasters such as this, was diverted and used to fund a war in
    Iraq and to ensure that the wealthiest Americans got their tax refunds..

    Every American is watching the developments in Lousiana, Mississippi and
    Alabama, as they deteriorate and become more intense.. Every American heart
    goes out to each victim.. Many from Texas are on their way to Louisiana and
    those other states to do all they can to alleviate the pain and help..
    Americans from all over this country are doing whatever they can to help..

    The president hasn't missed a fund raising event or failed to make a PR
    statement, even while that horrific storm was raging across that region..
    There was no interruption of that monthlong vacation, and everyone has to
    wonder at the dedication that caused him to cut short that vacation by two
    days..

    Even while this devastation of America rolls on, the oil companies and
    insurance companies take measures to ensure their bottom lines will not be
    adversely affected by the calamity that has taken over the lives of all
    these people.. Those bottom lines will be subsidized by consumers and
    taxpayers.. that's you, Bjay..

    Even so, Bush is sending out Bill Clinton and George H.W. Bush to appeal for
    donations and relief for a stricken region on our shores.. The pitiful few
    National Guardsmen who are being commited to do the work they are designed
    to do, are sorely inadequate.. Why ? Those resources are in Iraq.. The
    trillions of dollars in budget surpluses that was entrusted to George Bush,
    when he took office are gone.. No wonder his father and Bill Clinton are
    begging for our proud nation.. Bush squandered it all on political capitol..

    Of course I'm mad as hell.. If you believe that George Bush isn't intent on
    exploiting this disaster for more political capitol, as he has all the other
    disasters which he's exposed us to, then I'd have to say that you aren't
    thinking.. If you can criticize anyone for being angry, and feeling betrayed
    by this president, then you haven't thought it through..

    Hell yes .. those fellow Americans in those gulf states are in bad, bad
    trouble.. Hell yes.. this will be recorded in history as one of the worst
    disasters America has suffered.. And hell yes.. the president didn't prepare
    for this disaster, even though he'd been warned of it's consequences for
    years..

    Bill Walker
    Irving
     
    Bill Walker, Sep 1, 2005
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  7. BJayKana

    BJayKana Guest

    ‘‘Bjay,Of course I'm mad as hell.. If you believe that George Bush
    isn't intent on exploiting this disaster for more political capitol, as
    he has all the other disasters which he's exposed us to, then I'd have
    to say that you aren't thinking.. If you can criticize anyone for being
    angry, and feeling betrayed by this president, then you haven't thought
    it through..
    Hell yes .. those fellow Americans in those gulf states are
    in bad, bad trouble.. Hell yes.. this will be recorded in history as one
    of the worst disasters America has suffered.. And hell yes.. the
    president didn't prepare for this disaster, even though he'd been warned
    of it's consequences for years..
    (Bill Walker)

    ‘‘ Bill, a lot of what you said before the part I snipped to,
    is true, and not true.’’ (in my humble opinion)
    Preparing for hurricanes has been dealt with, one way or the other, good
    or bad, seriously,for 30 years. Especially on the east coast, down
    around Florida. Each and every administration,
    thought they were doing the what was necessary, as far as shoring up for
    the big (5) Hurricanes, the bigguns. It don't matter too much, what is
    done when almost a tsunami hits. Katrina was almost as bad as any
    tsunami. We could have been under the reins of President
    Kerry, or before that, President Al gore, and Katrina would have spread
    her disastrous 500 mile wide, with her 185 mph winds, and stomped
    through what ever the hell any of them had built to any bodys
    specifications. This is especially true,
    with how New Orleans is layed out.. But, I willsay, Norleans, has
    resisted and lasted through some big ass hurricanes, but not this gal.
    There may not be another New Orleans, atleast it will be considerably
    smaller, I think. Oh yeah, Biloxi, Ms.too.It is almost gone.
    regards, BJAY!
     
    BJayKana, Sep 1, 2005
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  8. BJayKana

    Wakko Guest

    I think I saw this very same argument before. It was in latin, and it
    referred to Vandals instead of hurricanes.

    Where will you spend the next dark age?
     
    Wakko, Sep 2, 2005
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  9. BJayKana

    Wakko Guest

    Some say worse. The initial tidal surge would be as damaging as a tsunami,
    and where a tsunami would be over in minutes, a hurricane can damage a huge
    area for hours or days. Standing flood waters, wind damage, broken levees,
    power loss...you wouldn't see much of this in a tsunami.
     
    Wakko, Sep 2, 2005
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  10. what? listen to engineering geeks who know what they're talking about?
    please. cool is what matters most and all those weenies who obsessive
    over civic issues because they care about the welfare of others --
    they're just over-informed nerds who need to get a life.

    look, the important things to remember are these: government has been
    downsized (or that's what i keep hearing). people have been given
    greater freedom to ignore geeks who know too much. above all though --
    and this is more important than life or death -- your taxes have been
    cut.

    of course, all those millions saved in prevention (as in ounce of
    prevention), will now result in billions in new cure spending (as in
    pounds of cure), but never mind that. what matters is that taxes have
    been cut and we had gotten FEMA off of people's back for a good 5 years
    or so.
     
    googlegroups2sucks, Sep 4, 2005
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  11. Yep, I see where the mayor of NewOrleans saved money by storing 500 buses

    well, of course, so let's cut city taxes and eliminate the mayorship
    altogether. then county government, then state, then the big kahuna...
    the federal government.

    everyone on their own. just like baghdad.

    let people take ownership of their own disasters and their own
    suffering. oh sure, we'll give them token words of compassion and a
    dollar here and there, but by god, don't give me another fucking tax
    hike. taxes are worse than the death of fellow human beings.
     
    googlegroups2sucks, Sep 5, 2005
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