[QUOTE] Riding to work in -4C temperatures this morning I was warm apart from my puddies - so, whom have a recommendation what don't involve amps for keeping hands warm in inclement weather? Anyone suggesting 4 door saloons gets a kick in the ass.[/QUOTE] No idea if they are good or not but found these on ebay, saves modding the bike or having wires dangling etc: [URL]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8725812548&fromMakeTrack=true[/URL] Probably need to be used with waterproof outer as well on a bike, not sure about that 6 month warranty bollocks either. Would work well if used with heated grips, keeps back of hand warm as well as burning the palms All the best