KTM forks on a BMW: Garage Night Episode 11 WATCH NOW!!

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Waz, May 11, 2009.

  1. Waz

    Waz Guest

    The KTM axle is too fat to go through the F650 hub.

    Not sure how Touratech deal with this - whether they use a new hub as
    well, or somehow adapt the F650 hub, or the axle carriers on the forks
    are different ... but our chosen route is straightforward: use a KTM
    hub.

    T'tech's complete rallye conversion kit for an F650 costs in excess of
    thirteen grand last time I checked - it is a very extensive kit-out
    with big tanks, rear shock etc. But we are going a somewhat cheaper
    route!

    Waz
    http://www.garagenight.tv
     
    Waz, May 12, 2009
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    BryanUT Guest

    This I just do not understand. Aren't all Harley's low enough to
    begin with?
     
    BryanUT, May 12, 2009
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    Bob Myers Guest

    Maybe - but is any of it particularly "Harley-unique"?

    I'll avoid the obvious cheap shots (for one thing, it looks like
    those have already been done! ;-)).

    Bob M.
     
    Bob Myers, May 12, 2009
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  4. My first thought would have been to look for a bearing with
    an ID to fit the KTM axle and an OD to fit the BMW wheel.

    Don't know if it's doable in this particular case, but I've
    done that before in a wheel swap.
     
    Rkleinsch1216128, May 12, 2009
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  5. Last time I checked, they have the lowest seat height on average,
    yes.

    But there's still lots of people for whom even that low height is too
    high, so it's a very common modification.

    Perhaps some of it is due to the easy availability of kits for it.
    With Harleys, changes are minimal from year to year (even model to
    model) so that translates into a big enough market for companies to
    justify manufacturing special items for it. And, with all those
    tempting choices out there, it tends to encourage the owners to make
    modifications, so it's kinda self-perpetuating.
     
    Road Glidin' Don, May 12, 2009
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    Bob Myers Guest

    That made me curious, so a little digging turned up this:

    http://motorcycleviews.com/general/seatheights.htm

    Looks to be about 3 years old, but I suspect it's still pretty
    close to reality.

    H-Ds on this list range from the Sportster at the high end
    (28.1 inches) to the Softtail Deluxe at the very bottom of the
    list (24.5 inches). And except for the little Buell Blast, which
    is just a small bike all around, it IS almost all Harleys once
    you get under 26 inches (with a couple of Victorys and
    the Honda Shadow VLX thrown in for good measure).

    At which point, the first thought that came to
    my mind was - you're wanting to lower it from THAT?
    Migawd, what do you need to be able to do? Put your
    feet flat on the asphalt while keeping your knees bent?

    For comparison, note that the top end of the list, at least at
    the time (2006) was the Suzuki DR-Z400S, at 36.8 inches.
    If you run down the list until you come to something that isn't
    at least somewhat dual-sportish, you find the Yamaha YZF-R6
    at 33.5 inches, and for more of a sport-tourer I note the
    BMW K1200 at 32.3.

    Personally, I just can't imagine riding a bike with the seat
    8 inches lower than that, let alone wanting to drop it even
    more. Just my preference, of course.

    Bob M.
     
    Bob Myers, May 12, 2009
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    Nigel Allen Guest

    Wooooosssshhhhhhhh!

    A whole bloody squadron of the bastards!
     
    Nigel Allen, May 12, 2009
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  8. Certainly more common to find H-D's that have
    the air-fuel remapped... this is almost de riguer.
    Ditto for exhaust... you almost never find one
    with factory pipes. Both of these are usually
    improvements... not to say you can't screw them
    up. I'm not aware of other manufacturers that
    allow (even encourage) remapping of their
    engine controller's flash memory... seems like
    there's a lot of PowerCommanders, etc. used
    for this in other makes, but nowhere near the
    penetration of the Stage 1 modification for H-D.
    It's commonly referred to as the 'Harley Tax'...
    costs about $300 for the filter change and remap.

    I've got the H-D SuperTuner device... a little dongle
    that goes between laptop and ECU. I can set
    it to record for about 20min... the software is
    really cool, gives three-dimensional graphs of
    what's going on. I haven't changed my map
    from straight Stage 1 yet... too many decisions
    to make about exhaust. It gives me a ridiculous
    amount of control over air-fuel, volumetric
    efficiency, injector timing, etc. Bewildering.

    I guess that's the big lesson... you see an H-D,
    chances are it's not stock in the controller dept.
    You do see folks lowering, etc... I put a higher
    ('Tall Boy') seat, expensive shocks (stock height),
    RaceTech Gold Valves... going the other way, I
    guess. Changed the mini-apes for low bars on
    day one. The only Harley I've ever seen with
    a tank bag on it.
    __
    Steve
    '06 FXDI
    KI5YG
    DoD 627
    ..
     
    Stephen Cowell, May 13, 2009
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    Eddie Guest

    <fx: points at Aprilia in .sig>
     
    Eddie, May 13, 2009
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    Waz Guest

    ECU remapping? This all seems rather over-the-top for asthmatic old
    pushrod two-valvers!

    (Says the two-valve Ducati rider)

    Waz
    http://www.garagenight.tv
     
    Waz, May 13, 2009
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