[QUOTE="Julian"] ...Every so often you hear the rumours about links with Fiat and Ferrari.[/QUOTE] FIAT and Ferrari once had big equity stakes in each other. They even built a car together. [QUOTE] Perhaps it really does just come down to money spent on R&D. I could point out the long succession of private engines (or factory badged) in F1 and Indy but there are factors of 10 difference in the funding.[/QUOTE] Indy? Fuck Tony George! ;-)