Laptop problem - diagnosis please?

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    Ace Guest

    A friend is staying with us for a while, and has just found her laptop
    seems dead, so I said I'd take a look. It's a Dell Latitude something
    -or another running XP.

    Symptoms:

    On her normal startup, gets as far as windows Background, then seems
    to hang, no explorer menu bar, icons, nowt. Some disk usage but not
    much, CTRL-ALT-DEL does nothing.

    Starting in safe mode, I can get a few things going, but the CPU is
    permanantly at 100% usage, mostly on the 'System' task (i.e. not
    System Idle process). Anything I try takes an age, although tasks will
    attempt to start.

    So in essence it seems that it's possibly just running at 1/1000 of
    normal speed, or something.

    Oh, and I went through the full diagnostics from startup and
    everything was a 'pass' although the battery health is saying it needs
    replacing. I'm assuming that's not related, as I'm running with
    external power attatched.

    Gotta go out skiing now, so won't catch up till later, but any
    suggestions would be welcome. Ta.
     
    Ace, Feb 6, 2011
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    Ace Guest


    Update before I leave the door: left long enough, like 10-15 mins,
    explorer seems to be finaly getting its act together - icons and start
    bar are populated/ing, but just very, very, very slowly. Not completed
    yet, but doesn't seem to respond to keyboard, although mouse movement
    is working.
     
    Ace, Feb 6, 2011
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    FWIW, probably nowt, Pat's laptop took to stopping at "just the
    Background" stage, but would continue booting if you hit the spacebar.
     
    Colin Irvine, Feb 6, 2011
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    Paul-xxx Guest

    Wife's Toshiba did similar, turned out to be a burnt out fan and
    blocked cooling ducting, so the thing just kept getting hot. Easily
    traced as she said it had been getting red-hot on her lap for ages!
    She never thought to tell me until it went west ... Bought a new
    duct/fan/heatsink assembly from ebay, replaced it all and job's a good
    'un.

    I'd have a look, therefore, at the cooling slots underneath/to the
    sides and see if there is any fluff hanging out of them. Clean as best
    you can with a paintbrush/canned air and see if it helps.
     
    Paul-xxx, Feb 6, 2011
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  5. Rip it out and start again.
    She's let some rogue prog/virus into it. If you can be arsed, you can
    shut down background progs one by one until the CPU frees up, but life's
    too short for that, at the speed it's running.
    If the owner hasn't backed up her data, do it now by removing the HD and
    slaving it to another machine, then re-install Windows.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 6, 2011
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  6. Ace escribió:
    I just gave my ski boots away. These knees will never ski again.
     
    Paul Carmichael, Feb 6, 2011
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    crn Guest

    Be bloody carefull with the canned air, it is capable of repeating
    my mistrake. The compressor and airgun were nearby so I thought
    a quick blow job (fnarr) should remove the accumulation of
    dustbunnies from my old Inspiron. BAD MOVE. The airblast made
    the fan spin up to eeeek RPM and any motor is also a generator.
    Motherboards do not expect the sudden arrival of lots of voles
    from that direction.

    ALWAYS immobilise any fans before blowing. Toothpicks or cotton
    buds poked through the blades is a good suggestion.
     
    crn, Feb 6, 2011
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  8. Ace

    Paul-xxx Guest

    Heh, didn't think of that .. I've been blasting away merrily .. ;)
    Fair points, thanks.
     
    Paul-xxx, Feb 6, 2011
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    Derek Turner Guest

    Separate h/w and s/w problems. Boot it up with a live CD of an
    appropriate linux distribution, ooh! say one named after a common garden
    herb, perhaps.

    If it runs ok in that then Windows is fsked (surprise, surprise). If not
    then it's hardware.
     
    Derek Turner, Feb 6, 2011
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    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Or mice, rats or any other kind of small mammal
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Feb 6, 2011
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    Catman Guest

    Likely

    Or disk failure of sectors where her profile is stored. Seen that before
    as well.

    Sort of depends on the disk activity light IME


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    Catman, Feb 6, 2011
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    Mike Barnard Guest

    Snip.

    We've an old Dell Latitude D505. In the last few months we've had the
    same symptoms so I've reinstalled the OS (XP pro) with no luck.

    THEN, there was a noise. A high speed squealing... yes the HDD was
    buggered. Easy as chips to change out, the worst bit was doing the
    hours of updates to get the OS 'safe'.

    A 160 gb drive can be had for 38ukp delivered to the door via
    Novatech, but I scrounged an old 30 gig for nowt.

    It's now as nippy as it ever was, and that's with just 512Mb ram.

    HTH.
     
    Mike Barnard, Feb 6, 2011
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    Derek Turner Guest

    Well, if you choose to use an eight-year old OS...
     
    Derek Turner, Feb 6, 2011
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    Mike Barnard Guest

    It's licenced for the machine and all it's used for is spider
    solitaire and surfing. It sits on the sofa all day.
     
    Mike Barnard, Feb 6, 2011
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  15. Ace

    Derek Turner Guest

    So there couldn't be a better, more stable and free alternative.
    Obviously.
     
    Derek Turner, Feb 6, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    Your motherboard was an 'amster, and your father smelled of
    elderberries..
     
    ginge, Feb 6, 2011
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