Longrow in Jim Murray's whisky bible 2007

'Hog wrote:

Generally gets my vote in the single malt. SWMBO is rather partial to it
as well, which in nice on one level and costly on another

Hasn't it just.



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Have you tried these 'new' Ardbegs? I wonder how they compare with the old.

I need to have a cull before buying any more.

In fact, I think I'll start now.

 

Another reason to put the **** Brown in front of a firing squad

 

Pint glass and a bottle of chilled lemonade then?

 

<squints>

That's a trick question, right?

Either that, or you're a fucking heathen.

 

Look at the quotes:

"This is undoubtly the King of Islay Malts! I have tried them all, and
this just beats Laphroaig and Lagavulin (both excellent): - Try the 17
year-old!"

Note - "Try the 17-year-old!"

"Stonking base-level Islay "

Note - "Base-level".

I know - really, I know ... you've tried them and you know too ... the
16y/o is nice. Very nice - sweet, tamed, enormous ... but go the
further 10 years, man - sweeter, not so caged, just an explosion of
taste on the tongue, the mouth, the digestive tract - and then it lights
a FOAD peat fire in yer belly. Yes, it is /expensive/ but it is *so*
worth it for the trickling quality as you swallow and savour the
fineness that the angels haven't had yet.

Single malts are all the same in one respect - the older, the better
(much like blokes, really) as they get sweeter, more powerful and longer
in the afterglow. Quality will out.

There's nothing cheap that's worth having. Women or whisky - you have
to pay for what you want.

 

Pfft. 10 y/o might be acceptable, even remarkable to the masses - but
you should know that the older it gets, the better it is. Ten years
ain't SFA to a good single malt.

You come here and I'll give you a good swallow of 1978 Ardbeg - now,
that's fucking quality, you old fart.

Yeah, 10 y/o for 35 quid is one thing, but when you reckon anothe 20
years of sitting in the cask, getting all mellow and losing all the
edges, evaporating all the rough bits away - and then multiply that by
the distillery at that time doing their own malting, over their own peat
fires, all done in-house and then stacking it away for half a lifetime
.... that's a PROPER single malt, that is. Probably the best single malt
I've ever tasted - and for just over a ton a bottle, it's a bargain.

Go on, troll me - and then, if you have the bottle (so to speak) come on
down for a glassful: and then try and deny I'm right. Ten years in the
cask just isn't enough for a single malt - I've had loads of such, and
15 and 20 year olds - and they just cannot compare to the really old
stuff.

Sure - the stupidly old gear, like the Black Bowmore" is supposed to be
untouchable at 50quid a measure, or others from the sixties at a grand a
bottle - but I've had them and TBH, they (channeling Bear) "Aint all
that" - for the money. They're fucking lovely, don't get me wrong - but
the cost, man, the moolah! They taste like a ginger ale mixed with a
dash of lemonade and a splash of gin: complex, alcoholic, sweet: but
little character, little mouthfeel, small finish. You want a monster
that feels like you've just done a tenner a galss - try a proper /old/
Ardbeg ... or a proper /old/ Macallan - or a proper /old/ Highland Park
and then you'll know what you're talking about ... and all the
pretenders to the throne will fade away.

Once tried, never denied.

 

I'm sure he meant diet coke.

 

Pip wrote:

I am tempted to spunk some of my redundancy on this. I cannot find a 26
yo one though. What's it actually called.

Oh of course. The thing that gets me is the huge difference in price
from different suppliers. The only reason I don't keep 16 all the time
is that we tend to run out before the more every day stuff, and then I
need to buy mroe.


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Well I've done that before with you. Very nice I know but more than I'm
prepared to spunk on anything to drink TBH. Ged I sound like Champ.

If I drink a bottle of Malt a year these days I'd be surprised and
mostly if I'm out drinking York ales.

 

Hmm, I'm more of the opinion that they are much like most such luxury items;
wine, hifi equipment, watches, you name it. There is a sweet spot beyond
which it is rarely worth venturing. The law of diminishing returns. Anything
much over 15 years is generally, IMO, an expensive snob trap.

 

Is that an open invitation to all and sundry randomers?
<pulls on whisky drinkin boots...>

 

Balvenie 15yo sherry cask aged leaps to mind.... outstanding
Bit drinkable mind, gone in about 10 days....

 

'Hog posted:

I was there myself a few weekends ago, and was pleasantly entertained
by the fine selection of ales to be found. I'll be back sometime in
the new year - I'll give you a shout beforehand.

 

Passing through a duty free I decided to take a small risk and buy the
18yr old Glenfiddich, what a very different beast to the unremarkable
10yr old. Shame it didn't last that long.

 

It's Glenfiddich, what did you expect.

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Just don't go there [1]. Ok.

Paul.

[1] Subject-wise, not geographically [2]
[2] Ok, that too ..

 

Not sure, never been that impressed with their younger ones which my
Dad used to buy. This was lovely. All that thought about whisky sent
me down to pour a dram and realise I've only got 1/3 left of my 15yr
Glenlivet.

 

<looks up>
Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaants