Low quality cheap SUNL Chinese trash

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  1. Anonymous

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    For the latest news on SUNL JUNK


    Thinking of buying a SUNL ATV or product? DON'T DO IT!!
    Below is what you can expect!
    Extremely low quality, no after the sale service or parts.
    SUNL is just JUNK! Do not waste your money!


    Thanks very much for your support.
    Alexandra Philogene

    2 days ago by Don Lang
    Not sure yet about the quality as I just bought this via a private sale. What I can say is it is very hard or so far impossible to find parts. The 200 cc ATV I purchased was missing the skid plate. For more than 2 weeks I have tried to find this part. I have contacted the Corporate offices, local dealer, (who says he's not even a dealer), the NJ office, Houston, Dallas... I have talked to the National Sales Manager who just blew me off. Left messages for every extension at the corporate office and just can't get a simple part. I am now having it custom manufactured. I hope the ATV lasts for 1 summer, that is all I expected. It had less than 1 hour use on it when I purchased it. The plastic was still on the seat. I can tell, I have been in business for nearly 25 years and have never seen anything like this company. Absolutely!!! BUYER BEWARE!!!

    Sunl Group
    Poor Quality product
    My son purchased a 110cc dirt bike from a distributor in WI with his own hard earned money on 7-4/06.
    He was told that this was a high quality product built and designed after Honda. Well let me tell you
    this is not true. We have had nothing but problems since this bike was purchased. After only driving
    this dirt bike 8 times, the frame broke and luckily he was not badly injured. We have sent many hours
    and a great deal of money on repairing this bike.
    The worst now is the dealer will not stand behind this product and repair or assist in getting this
    bike issue resolved.


    Glad to have found this site to vent on. My son bought one of these
    from NYDiscountmotors on Feb. 19 on ebay. Nothing but problems since
    it came out of the crate. Starter wouldn't work, so he was jump
    starting it for about two weeks. Place was going to meet us halfway
    between NY and CT to fix problem, then tells me to take it somewhare
    and they will reimburse cost. Did that and the day before we took it
    all of a sudden the starter worked. Guy up here looked at it, couldn't
    find why it wouldn't start before, needed headlight replacement. Was
    never sent. Then they won't reimburse him the $90 because it was now
    working. Then agreed to pay half, still haven't gotten it. Body parts
    are broken off, cheap plastic, In March the chain broke, $38 to
    replace that with a good chain By beginning of May, rear brake pads
    completly gone. Another $68 to replace them, once the guy found ones
    that matched. Yesterday, the front wheel is now sheared right off the
    axle. Luckily he was going around a curve and not going fast. These
    are a piece of $1000 junk. He rides in the woods on trails he and his
    friends have made and these bikes are just not rugged enough for that.
    He had a Polaris 90 Sport we got used for $600. That on had been
    flipped, crashed, drowned and never broke off a body part. On this
    piece of crap the entire right side from front fender to back is in
    pieces and other parts are cracked. He has sure learned a
    hard lesson for a 14 year old. NY Discount motors response is
    basically you get what you pay for. They are really mad because I left
    neutral feedback on them. Just said good sale, shoddy product, email
    for info before bidding. Ruined there 100% positive rating. Have asked
    me to recind it, was considering it, until the wheel incident. Sorry
    to go on so long, but just needed to vent. I guess buyer beware is
    really true. Thanks

    All the bad things you have read about SUNL are correct, why bother
    with JUNK!

    Things I've had go wrong in the first 3 months:

    1.) Chain broke after the "guard" squashed against it after casual
    trail riding...and I mean CASUAL.
    2.) Bolts to the swing arm axle adjuster fell out after a day of
    CASUAL riding, used red thread lock to fix it, took an hour to find
    them in the field.
    3.) Throttle cable got stuck after a day of attempted mud riding...my
    son held on for dear life!
    4.) Frame developed a crack near the lower swing arm joint...hmmm.
    5.) Gas tank developed a hair line crack after another day of CASUAL
    riding (this is when I decided it was no longer safe for my son to
    ride it).

    So, bottom line, if your having good luck with your SUNL, your among A
    FEW. Don't waste your money...that's all I'll say.

    Buyer beware!
    In April of 2006 I purchased 6 ATV's from a SUNL dealer thru EBAY.
    This dealer, who I will not name, has been so very helpful. I have no
    complaints at all about him. He has sent me box after box of parts for
    free. What absolutely floors me, is how incredibly poorly these things
    are made. My kids are all average sized, ranging from 6 yrs old to 11
    yrs old. They only ride them on the weekends in our 4.5 acres of flat
    as can be grass yard. No jumps, tricks, rough riding, nothing. These
    things have been an endless headache for me. I seriously can't tell
    you how many hours and hours I have spent trying to make these things
    work. Here are just a few problems I have encountered: CONSTANT carb
    problems-float needles sticking open causing the carb to empty the
    entire fuel tank all over the ground/floor. Needles sticking shut
    causing the engine not to start. Fuel lines cracking and leaking all
    over the hot engine after only one month of riding. Dead batteries
    every weekend causing me to need to jump start them off of my battery
    charger just to get them going. All of them have had the chains break
    at least once. The frame on one of the 110's broke in half where the
    swingarm meets while my 60 lb daughter was riding it, luckily she was
    not hurt. All of them have had parts break, fall off, loosen up, etc
    for no reason. I got to the point where I was putting Loctite on
    everything! I could go on and on. At this point, only ONE of the SIX I
    purchased is running. They are parked permanently. Now, I knew that
    these were not going to be as good as the Hondas that I originally
    wanted to buy (the Hondas are 5 times the $), but I didn't think these
    things would be so terribly made and downright dangerous. In the end,
    I guess you do get what you pay for. BUYER BEWARE!

    I was a SunL Dealer couldn't get parts at all and filed against them
    through my credit card company. Endless Journey Cycles Ohio

    Just picked up a brand new 150cc scooter by SUNL. Got it cheap, but as
    I am finding out, getting replacement body panels are difficult to
    come by. I email SUNL in Texas but they don't respond. I email a
    distributor in City of Industry, California, and they too don't
    respond. It would appear the SUNL is another fly by night company or
    run out of someone's bedroom.

    Run away from anything that says SunL on it. We used to deal in their
    scooters also and they were nothing but problems.

    Arg! Well I still don't have the parts I need to fix my kickstarter. I
    can't get a hold of SunL's parts division (the switch board at SunL
    only picks up the phone when the parts division is closed, HA!).
    Brian, If your smart you will tear up Sunl's number and never call
    them again. They are THE WORST company when it comes to scooters.

    One important message to you. DO NOT look for any support from
    SUNL. They are the worst in my opinion and I have been trying to deal
    with them since buying the bike last October.

    I purchased several mopeds to resale in my powersport shop. Sunl has
    made promise after promise to send necessary parts which I ended up
    buying from a parts house. I needed mso's in order to get titles to
    the mopeds that I sold. I have had to purchase several mopeds back
    from the customers, which now I have a few used mopeds that I can't
    get titles to. Sunl contacted me informed me that the state of Florida
    is making them buy back all mopeds (as a credit) I purchased for what
    I paid for them, less shipping. Now they say they are not going to buy
    them back, refuse to take my calls or return any of my calls. I hope
    that anyone that is thinking about buying from Sunl reads this and
    thinks twice about it they are built cheaper than other chinese
    products that I purchased from other distribitors. I have also heard
    rumor tha sunl has copied from another mfg the epa tags and put them
    on their own products which is why Florida wont accept any mso that I
    already have.

    Many many phone calls all over the country dealing with rude
    receptionists and ignorant peaople, finally yielded the name and phone
    number of the GM over thier 4 US branches, Jeff Boudreaux at
    1-866-423-1072. I spoke to him on Feb 14th and thought i was finally
    going to get somwhere, he refered me to Chris the Parts and Tech
    manager in Texas. Now about 10 e-mails later I have not gotten any
    resolution. Lotsa "gonnas" but no action. when I am done with this
    post I plan to get on the phone to Jeff again. Really a shame if they
    want to build a brand in the US, if they don't change and begin to
    listen to customers problems, address them with manufacturing changes
    and then stand behind thier product and make parts accessable they
    won't last long.I have had alot of communication with SUNL in Texas
    and do not get the responses I had hoped for, especially considering
    they are trying to build a brand here in the U.S. For example I have
    tried to get the missing washer that holds on the dust cap on the
    front hub for over a month now.... Nuthin. I have tried to find out if
    there is a clutch rebuild kit.... Nuthin. I could go on but won't.

    These karts are junk. And if that isn't enough, just try getting parts
    for them. Even as a dealer, I couldn't hardly get any parts. I finally
    gave up and dumped the line. Stay away from SUNL. You will be doing
    yourself and your family a great favor.

    stay away from, me and my buddy used to sell them they have alot of
    problems Chassis breaking carbs falling off and sticking wide open one
    kid .. got hurt no to long ago and sunl is being sued over defects,
    spend the extra money and buy name brand

    -- Pink Piece of Junk --
    I can't believe I actually bought this for my 8 year old daughter. She
    wanted to ride with me at the local track but I didn't want to spend
    any more money on an expensive quad so I decided to buy this. I am
    extremely disappointed because it only rides for a few hours before
    something goes wrong with it. Everything about this quad is awful. I
    would never buy another SunL ATV ever again.

    -- SUNL Junk --
    Purchased a Hanma R6 for grandson for Christmas. Purchased 12/22/2006.
    Went through all the pre-ride checks and he received atv on
    No rough riding, no jumping, no high speeds and unit falling apart
    everyday. Welds breaking and bolts coming loose. Returned unit on
    January 4, 2007 and probably out the money, but SUNL is junk - DO NOT
    BUY IT. No warranty, no parts, and no service. Somebody needs to get a
    class action suit started on these guys to shut them down or get them
    straight before somebody dies.

    You get what you pay for...I bought a ATV 109 for my son, it served
    it's purpose for a couple of months. I got tired of fixing it after
    every ride. In general, they are junk.

    We bought a little SUNL about 2 months ago, something has fallen off
    or broke everytime we go riding. This last time, it was the frame. So
    we are sending it back and are looking at getting the Unison Desert
    Cat 90. So far I have heard alot of good stuff. We ride in sand
    mostly. My son is only 35 lbs and will be 8 this summer. We want
    something that we wont have to fix or tighten things on every time we

    We have some experience with "Chinese Quads". While they are cheaper,
    you have to be willing to put in the time in maintaining them. They
    take A LOT more maintenance than regular bikes. Things rattle off and
    parts break easily on a regular basis. You have to know how to fix
    them and it is difficult to get certain parts. It takes a lot of
    patience in getting on line and calling places to find parts. Many
    times we have ordered parts for them to be back ordered for months and
    we never get them. It was really hard to find tires and wheels for our
    little one and we ended up having to wait about 7 months before we
    found the right ones.

    I bought a SunL 50cc quad for my 5 year old stepdaughter less than a
    year ago. I too did not want to spend $2k on a 50cc quad, especially
    if she turned out not to be interested in riding it. My first
    impression was that it had a stout motor for a 50cc., had a decent
    looking rear disc brake, electric start, remote start, remote kill
    switch, pretty neat I thought. I soon realized that what I had was a
    total pile of crap.

    * The suspension is nothing more than springs - there is no
    appreciable damping in the "shock". Makes for precarious handling
    characteristics thru any sort of appreciable bumps.
    * The throttle stop, at its full-in position, still allows the bike to
    haul a**.
    * There is no parking brake, and it will walk away at normal idle
    * Not that the brake is much use, which was surprising, as it's a
    hydraulic disc brake (rear only, no front brake at all). It will slow
    the bike down eventually, but it's not even strong enough to lock the
    rear wheels pulled fully to the grip. Yes, I bled it, no improvement.
    * There is no gas tank petcock. A piece of plastic from the cheapo gas
    tank lodged itself in the float seat, causing it to piss gas out the
    float vent. There was no vent tube, so the gas was leaking on the hot
    cylinder head. Only solution given a lack of the right tools to remove
    the plastics at the time was to drain the gas tank before putting it
    back on the trailer.
    * With the help of the springboard suspension and some uneven bumps
    (common to offroading), my daughter managed to flip it over. Now the
    steering shaft is bent.

    She's ridden it at maybe 8 outings total, and it is now a total piece
    of garabage. During the last 4 outings, I've spent more time fixing it
    than she has riding it, cutting out my riding time as well. Now that I
    know she's into riding, she will be getting a quality quad for her
    birthday in a couple months.

    So, in conclusion, if you don't ride very hard, or if you do ride hard
    but don't venture far from camp and can put up with a constantly
    breaking motorcycle or quad, the chinese models may be what you're
    looking for.

    7 days ago by Brandy Jenson
    I bought 2 four wheelers for my two daughters for a Christmas present
    from sunl the first thing that happened was when they were delivered
    one of them was the wrong color it was suppose to be pink and it was a
    hunters camo yellow for a boy and this was a Christmas present for my
    daughter and i hand her this boy looking four wheeler i contacted sunl
    and they said they didnt have the one i ordered so just sent me the
    wrong one hoping i would be happy well i was not it took from the end
    of nov.To just a few days ago to get the new body that i ordered i am
    so disappointed with these four wheeler every time we attempt to ride
    them they literally fall apart both of them are a piece of junk all
    the problems i read you had i have had the same things wrong with mine
    and every time i try to contact them they are full of excuses i think
    they're waiting for the year warranty to be up so then theres no
    chance of getting any help from sunl we bought these and they dont
    even run and were suppose to just say oh well we got ripped off its
    not fair we should get a refund or something i feel like we totally
    got ripped off.33 days ago by Jennifer McArdle

    The fact that these four wheelers are poorly made is absolutely true,
    and to add headache to injury, the dealer who sold my daughter's to me
    neglected to mention the laws and statutes concerning appropriate size
    for age class, the required education classes and registration
    documentation. So not only is the product poorly constructed, but due
    to the laws where I live and the fact that I would use it at public
    locations, my child is completely unable to use it. Which I guess
    isn't so bad considering the safety issues that other Sunl owners have
    experience. Stay very far away from the Sunl products!! do not make
    the same mistake that I did.

    HANMA R6 ATV - poor quality
    Complaint Rating: 67 % with 3 votes
    Purchased SUNL Hanma R6 December 22, 2007..given as Christmas gift to
    6 year old 54 pound (24.49 kg) grandson. He received gift on December

    The recommended inspection before riding was completed on December
    24th per the checklist in the owners manual. In addition to pre-ride
    inspection all bolts and nuts were checked for tightness. One bolt was
    found missing in rear muffler hanger and a number of bolts were loose.
    The nuts that attach the muffler to the engine head were loose and
    also tightened. Lug nuts on wheels were also checked for proper
    torque.During pre-ride inspection what looked to be a small crack was
    noted on rear rack bracket.
    Per instruction booklet motor break in procedures were followed by
    setting throttle at approximately half throttle for first ten hours.
    Youngster rode with father who was on a Kawasaki quad and father
    insured that engine speed was varied and that constant low speed was
    avoided However, unit was never broken in due to a total of ten hours
    not being completed. The vehicle held together only long enough for
    one tank of fuel and part of another tank to be used.

    December 26th: Rear muffler bolt came loose and was lost. Bolt
    replaced. Rear rack bracket broke and rack went forward into plastic
    body housing breaking plastic body.

    December 27th: Keeping muffler tight continued to be a problem and
    muffler was wired because muffler bracket broke. Battery case latching
    system broke.

    December 28th: Chain came off and had to be replaced and retightened
    and muffler continued to work loose at engine head.

    December 29th: front rack mounting broke and bolts holding muffler on
    engine head came loose and were lost, This was the end of using the
    unit. Unit was returned to dealer on January 4th.

    The unit is sold as an all terrain vehicle for off use road only. This
    unit was never subjected to any excess weight, nothing was carried on
    either rack, and the unit was never subjected to any severe treatment
    such as jumping or high speed operation in rough terrain, or for that
    matter even over mild terrain.. Unit was operated in field and pasture
    conditions in a rural area. None of the areas would be considered
    extreme or severe terrain. Overall the unit was operated in what would
    be considered mild territory for any off road or all terrain vehicle.
    The dealer has stated that the damage to the unit appeared to be
    "impact" damage. There was never any impact with any object other than
    those that were attached to the unit and fell off and impacted some
    other part of the unit such as the rear rack hitting the plastic body.
    I have absolutely no complaints at all about the engine other than the
    muffler not staying on the unit. Engine started easily every time and
    ran excellent. Brakes worked well and transmission seemed to perform
    flawlessly. However, I would add that the unit has not operated the
    full 10 hours as recommended for break in.
    The major problem I see is that the tubing used in the construction of
    the frame and racks is of extremely poor quality. With such little
    operating time under such mild conditions and seeing all of the welds
    break and other frame problems I am concerned that a major frame
    component could fail. Failure of a major part such as swing arm or
    other steering component could result in sever injury or even death to
    the rider and even low speeds. Don't waste your money, or chance your
    kids life.


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    SUNL 90....another broken frame

    SUNL mini 90....broken swingarm

    SUNL 250 .... engine and welds break

    SUNL class action lawsuit

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  2. Anonymous

    redshad Guest

    I am damn sho glad you clued us in that SUNL sucked...We ALL were just
    about to go get us one.

    redshad, Jul 25, 2007
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