LPG

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by bogdan, Aug 22, 2006.

  1. bogdan

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I would be gobsmacked if that was the case.
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 24, 2006
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  2. bogdan

    atec77 Guest

    You're from Tassie ?
     
    atec77, Aug 24, 2006
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  3. That's what he said and he was back three days later!
     
    Pisshead Pete, Aug 24, 2006
  4. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:28:13 GMT
    The discussion was about people in the outer suburbs. Country people
    have a whole different set of problems and possible solutions.

    It appears that Oz is going to have to become much more urban. I
    don't think agriculture sans machinery is viable so we aren't going to
    go back to the old days when lots of migratory workers went about on
    trains and bicycles and did the big jobs by hand. So if petrol's
    hard, then rural life is that much less viable. The same is not as
    true of outer suburban life.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 24, 2006
  5. bogdan

    G-S Guest

    Because CNG isn't a petroleum by-product, it is a separate sourced product.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Aug 24, 2006
  6. You were talking of outer suburban commuting from an inner city perspective
    though. Moving in closer is not an option for many, high city real estate
    prices are a pretty good block to that. It would be better on the pocket to
    change jobs to something closer but less well paid perhaps, than go heavily
    into debt just to be closer to work.

    Plus the fact that to me the idea of living in the city sucks, it's not a
    financial issue, it's just not somewhere I want to live anyway.

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Aug 24, 2006
  7. bogdan

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    A petroleum product. You know, that stuff you want us to stop using.
    I can accept that.
    I thought so.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Aug 25, 2006
  8. bogdan

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Get it done in WA. The State gov't will put in another $1000.

    If you have a car where you regularly use all the power available to get up
    hills, overtake, etc, and you put a gas conversion on it which reduces the
    available power, does it not mean that you will spend much more time at max
    available power, and increase your fuel consumption considerably.

    I always thought that gas conversions were only economic for larger engines.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Aug 25, 2006
  9. bogdan

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    He does. Clem is the only person allowed to admit he was wrong on this ng.
    The only time he won't admit to it is when you tell him he's wrong.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Aug 25, 2006
  10. bogdan

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I'm not surprised you didn't understand that, Hammo. :)

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Aug 25, 2006
  11. Okay, where WILL they get it?
     
    Stephen Calder, Aug 25, 2006
  12. bogdan

    Moike Guest

    Yes, but you have to remember that the gas is far less expensive than
    the petrol. I don't mind sacrificing a little speed up hills to be able
    to travel 300k on $22 of fuel in my 2.4 l 4WD camper that would cost
    about $56 on petrol. (I haven't tested the milage on petrol, because I
    don't want to waste the money.)

    Moike
     
    Moike, Aug 25, 2006
  13. bogdan

    Moike Guest

    er.. Have you ever noticed that you can always tell where the oil
    refineries are at night?

    Moike
     
    Moike, Aug 25, 2006
  14. bogdan

    Nev.. Guest

    No, It was far less expensive when I had a car converted years ago.
    Since then the price of petrol has doubled while the price of LPG has
    tripled..

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Aug 25, 2006
  15. bogdan

    Moike Guest

    well, if it means that we use up the otherwise wasted petroleum gas
    instead of some of the petrol, *and* it costs half as much, then yes, it
    makes sense to me.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Aug 25, 2006
  16. bogdan

    Knobdoodle Guest

    I don't believe that LPG is "otherwise wasted".
    Sure there's a flame at a refinery but that's to incinerate nasty waste
    products not to get rid of excess LPG.
    I think you're furphing.
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 25, 2006
  17. bogdan

    Nev.. Guest

    yeah, they only ever seem to be burning at the top of the chimney
    stacks, but I seem to recall that what we call LPG is not the lightest
    gas produced in the refining process.


    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Aug 25, 2006
  18. bogdan

    Nev.. Guest

    NO. Now it's just "less expensive"

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Aug 25, 2006
  19. bogdan

    Moike Guest

    So less than half the cost per kilometer doesn't rate as "far less
    expensive"?
    Moike
     
    Moike, Aug 25, 2006
  20. bogdan

    Moike Guest

    A little googling will tell you that while Australian excess production
    of LPG is generally exported, in many places it is still flared off.
    It is generated as an unavoidable adjunct to the production and refining
    of petroleum. What you can't sell or store can only be burnt off.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Aug 25, 2006
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