M8 thread pitch on honda motorcycles.

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by ian field, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Anyone know the thread pitch on Honda M8 bolts?

    Thanks in advance.
     
    ian field, Jan 24, 2009
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  2. ian field

    . Guest

    If you have a metric bolt, just lay a metric scale next to it.

    1.0mm is a very common pitch.

    Typical pitches are 0.5mm, 0.75mm, 1.0mm, 1.25mm and 1.5mm, from one
    thread crest to the next.
     
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  3. ian field

    ian field Guest

    If you have a metric bolt, just lay a metric scale next to it.

    1.0mm is a very common pitch.
     
    ian field, Jan 24, 2009
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  4. ian field

    . Guest

    So the thread spacing of a 1.0mm bolt is 0.0394 inches and the thread
    spacing on a 1.25mm bolt is 0.0493 inches.

    That's a *very noticeable* difference in thread pitch.

    You do have a caliper or a steel scale, don't you?
     
    ., Jan 24, 2009
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  5. Well, metric coarse M8 is 1.25, metric fine M8 is 1.0. I'd expect
    Honda to use fine on engine parts, but that's just an edjumificated guess...
    This is where calipers, thread gauges, or plain rulers cumin handy -- assuming
    you've got a sample to test, of course. :-/

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    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Jan 24, 2009
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  6. ian field

    Jack Hunt Guest

    Sure is. About the width of four human hairs.
     
    Jack Hunt, Jan 24, 2009
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  7. ian field

    ian field Guest

    He's not answering the question because he doesn't know.
     
    ian field, Jan 24, 2009
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  8. ian field

    ian field Guest

    That would be my guess too, but I need to be sure before ordering a V-coil
    thread repair kit and refill inset pack from a seller who has a £50 minimum
    order .
     
    ian field, Jan 24, 2009
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  9. ian field

    . Guest

    Honda *does not* give the thread pitch on their parts fiches, they
    just call out the bolt diameter in millimeters, followed by the
    length, again in millimeters.

    So, you'll need to actually *measure* the thread pitch with an
    appropriate gauge or caliper before ordering any parts.
     
    ., Jan 24, 2009
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  10. Rob Kleinschmidt, Jan 25, 2009
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  11. Why are you trying to start an argument? Look back to the posting before
    Ian's, and you'll see that this was *precisely* the advice that Ian was
    referring to.

    Advice given by Ivan, who you already seem to have a downer on since he
    gently rubbed your face in it with your guff about magnets.

    Ian actually quoted it, but you snipped it, and started trying to come
    over all self-important with "advice".

    Enquiring minds need to ask: why did you snip advice that had been
    given, and then re-post it?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 25, 2009
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  12. ian field

    Bob Scott Guest

    The CB900 I'm in the process of TOGing out uses M10 Fine on the engine
    mounts[1] so I'd assume the M8s are Fine as well.

    I know making assumptions is risky but my tub of stainless fasteners are
    M8 fine and they fit the bolts from the CB900. Of course, that may just
    mean a DPO had used M8 fine bolts instead of M8 coarse but I'd think
    not.

    Bob

    [1] So I've transplanted a couple of them to the Laverda - same size,
    same thread, less rusty.
     
    Bob Scott, Jan 25, 2009
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  13. ian field

    . Guest

    Why are *you* trying to start an argument?

    Is arguing what you live for?
     
    ., Jan 25, 2009
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  14. ian field

    . Guest

    Using a different thread pitch on *through bolts* isn't an important
    issue, but when
    an amateur mechanic tries to screw a 1.25 pitch bolt into a 1.00 pitch
    blind hole in an aluminum casting, the first threads will get stripped
    out.
     
    ., Jan 25, 2009
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  15. I'm not trying to start an argument. I asked a question.

    And that was: perfectly good advice was given, quoted, and then you
    snipped it out and repeated it ab initio, as if it was the first time it
    had been suggested.

    Why???

    (You need to lessen your paranoia, you sad unfulfilled person)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 25, 2009
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  16. Er, yes, which is presumably one reason why the question was asked
    originally. Your point?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 25, 2009
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  17. Beg to differ. Motorcycle workshop manuals are full of tables of
    tightening torques for all sorts of screw fasteners. Using the right
    torque on the wrong pitch can lead either to under-tightened fasteners
    or stripped threads.

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    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Jan 25, 2009
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  18. ian field

    paul c Guest

    Bob Scott wrote:
    ....
    Interesting that the M8's would be Fine pitch. Honda Common Service Manual circa 1993 gives 'typical' ISO threads found on Honda vehicles with the M8 at 1.25 mm pitch. I'm curious which parts have 1.0 mm pitch threads.
     
    paul c, Jan 25, 2009
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  19. ian field

    . Guest

    The banjo bolts in the brake system *might* have 10mm diameter 1.0mm
    pitch threads or 1.25mm pitch threads, and trying to substitute the
    wrong thread can be expen$ive.
     
    ., Jan 25, 2009
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  20. ian field

    . Guest

    That you're a Genuine Pain in the Ass.
     
    ., Jan 25, 2009
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