Man jailed over fatal road smash

It was clearly Qantas's fault, if those bastards didn't fly them over in the
first place none of this would have happened, and don't get me started on
those criminal Wright brothers who invented powered flight!

Boxer

 

Rope, that bloody rope, the major cause of hangings, another AFP conspiracy
if you ask me!

Boxer

 

Me. 'Tis true.

Even water (believe it or not).

Indeed, and shown to be correct in several medical trials.

JL

 

Blimey, is that an odd concept to you ?

I'm in favour of availability of abortion, and no, before someone asks I
don't see a conflict between that and being against the death penalty
(and I can provide what I consider a rational argument as to the
difference - primary point being I'm not anti death penalty on a
"sanctity of life" basis)

Errm I'm confused - how do you reconcile that with the above sentence ?

JL
(maybe i've not had enough wine ?)

 

Yes. Categorically.

I think you underestimate the perspicacity of the average teenager.
There's a reason why advertisers are chasing hard down alternate paths -
the average person under 25 is notoriously difficult to market to
compared to their progenitors

Because a significant portion of the consequences are a direct result of
it being illegal and no other reason. That means the government is
deliberately choosing to ensure that harm comes to it's citizens that in
the absence of their law wouldn't happen.

Although I consider it suboptimal, totally legalised and allowed to be
provided and advertised by any provider in the same way as alcohol would
have a lower negative impact on society than it's current illegal
status. That however would be a poorer outcome than government
regulation IMNSHO.

JL

 

In aus.motorcycles on 17 Feb 2006 02:30:03 -0800

The problem is knowing you have one, and knowing you have the right
one.

Go read about Tim Evans. Consider the evidence in the Ronald Ryan
case.


And tell me just how many of these people are there who choose to be
so? As a percentage of murderers? And how you plan to tell the
difference without any chance of error?

Or will you be willing to die if an innocent is killed?

Zebee

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 17 Feb 2006 06:56:10 GMT

I beleive there was a strong element of racism too - it was seen as a
"Mexican" drug.

Wasn't Hearst involved somewhere? Either paper or rope, either way he
had a lot of money riding on the banning of hemp and a lot of
newspapers to wage the campaign with.

Zebee

 

Not to mention hemp clothing which is more comfortable and less prone to
causing allergies, and the fact that cotton is destructive to land in Oz
whereas hemp causes minimal impact in an arid environment like ours.

JL

 

Errm, yeah It's even better if you call Scandinavians germanic

JL
(insulting everyone individually, (and this was the point he gritted his
teeth over) in alphabetical order)

 

One cannot by definition rehabilitate someone who is dead.

It is IMO less cruel to lock someone away for life than to kill them.
That protects society as well as the death penalty.

Now if you ask do I approve of the short so-called life sentences for
_serious_ offences in Australia then I'd say in most cases no I do not.

But that is a seperate issue to the death penalty.


G-S

 

I'd mention in passing that I don't have a problem with early term
abortions either. I am not terribly happy with very late ones where the
fetus has developed into a baby with substantial brain mass though
(excepting those where it is putting the mother at serious risk).


G-S

 

OOOOeeerrr... can I have a paper please mister?


G-S

 

Criminalising it?

 

well it was a direct result of their being born. But that isn't the
entire cause either.

Moike

 

Piss off, little teapot!

-----sharks (People's Committee for G-S Changing His Handle To
"Little Teapot", Or If He Doesn't, Calling Him That Anyway)

 

Agreed

 

Due process will reduce the risk of sentencing the wrong person, so far
courts have got it right more times than they have got it wrong. I am
referring to those that demonstrate a total lack of humanity, such as
repeat offenders and physcos, where the evidence is very strong and
they even boast and confess to the crimes. This is not the profile of
all murderers, but I have concerns about any human who can cross that
line and kill another.

"Or will you be willing to die if an innocent is killed?"
I am less comfortable with errors made by the system resulting in
innocents who are killed or lives ruined as result of giving these
'humans' a second or worst third chance.

 

That is where I am not sure. Locking up someone for the rest of there
life seems very cruel to me, I am not sure what I would prefer for
myself if given the choice.

Another problem is the cases where these sadistic humans continue to
harm others even whilst locked up. The only solution is total
isolation, and that is even harder for me to handle as it is a horrific
punishment.

Problem is these type of humans exist and something has to be done -
just there are no easy answers.

 

Then we're already there. It has been my repeated experience
that calling the police for any reason, but in particular when
you need their help, is *always* a mistake. This isn't something
new though, way way way back in first year law school, one of
the first things my Criminal Law lecturer did was warn us in
quite strong terms of the dangers of involving oneself with
police. Shit, if they're teaching that kind of stuff in
Universities, then maybe I'm not completely crazy!

GB

 

Groundhog day!!!

GB