MCN are reporting that Suzuki are now allowed 9 motors due to the GSV-R being a pile of poo

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    Julian Bond Guest

    http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2010/July/jul
    201-suzuki-gets-increased-engine-allocation/

    Hmmm. So Suzuki are on double secret probation?

    Jeez' what is it going to take?

    I really don't wish this on the riders, but I'm holding my breath each
    race in case Rossi's engine blows up and then Lorenzo, Pedrosa and
    Stoner fall off on the oil. We came awful close to that in practice with
    Lorenzo's engine. Is it going to take some really high profile accident
    to bring everyone to their senses? Anyone want to take bets on when the
    first big blow up happens in a race to one of the aliens?
     
    Julian Bond, Jul 20, 2010
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    Julian Bond Guest

    I assume you've seen this.
    http://motomatters.com/news/2010/07/17/how_lorenzo_s_engine_blow_up_could
    _affec.html

    IMHO Lorenzo is not going to get to the end of the year on his
    allocation. My guess is that tech3 won't either even if they turn the
    rev limits down and make them even more of a dog than they are now. Hard
    to tell about Rossi as his engines have done one less meeting and had 2
    being ridden slowly.
    If the 1000cc rule had stayed but they'd added the limited engines rule
    we'd be in the same situation. When it ended we were in just the same
    horsepower, revs and fuel limitation battle we're in now. It's racing.
     
    Julian Bond, Jul 21, 2010
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    Switters Guest

    I don't believe a single thing in that rag unless I've read it somewhere
    else.
     
    Switters, Jul 21, 2010
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    Julian Bond, Jul 21, 2010
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    Mark N Guest

    Rossi missed four races, and the fossil fill-in only did one weekend,
    and probably entirely on his most-tired motors. So Rossi probably has
    a notable edge over Lorenzo in this regard. If Lorenzo has to add two
    more motors than Rossi, that could easily be 40 points or so. And if
    Lorenzo ratchets back performance to stretch use, it actually could
    end up more. And one assumews the later motors will be better, and
    Rossi should have more of those. In some sense over the last four
    races Lorenzo has been doing Rossi's testing.
    I kind off doubt that. 1000s make excessive power for the tires, so
    much of the electronic and rider management would be focused on
    limiting the power going to the tire. 800s don't so much, so the
    motors have focused more on peak power and high revs to get there, and
    management has been more focused on smoothing the powerband. It would
    be useful to know exactly where the failures have come from and the
    areas that are the weakest links in achieving mileage requirements on
    the 800s, but in simple terms it probably comes down to rev levels. My
    guess is parts are stressed less at lower revs, even if the motor is
    bigger; issues would be less likely to come from the head, for
    instance, rev levels were the whole reason for the rather problematic
    move to pneumatics for the Japanese.
     
    Mark N, Jul 21, 2010
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