Mechanical aptitude test

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by AndrewR, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. AndrewR

    Ace Guest

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    What you, and apparently the quizmaster, are missing is that the
    forces (weight) act through the centre point of the masses, which are
    at 1 and 5 units respectively from the fulcrum, not at the furthest
    distant part of said masses, which would give the 'desired' answer.

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    Ace, Oct 11, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    It did strike me that kg-m is a quite obviously a basic metricification
    of ft-lb, but it's such a half-arsed job.
     
    ogden, Oct 11, 2007
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  3. AndrewR

    Ace Guest

    Sure, but don;t forget that both lb and kg are also used as the normal
    'standard' measures of weight in the real world, so it's hardly
    surprising that thie still occurs.

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    Ace, Oct 11, 2007
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  4. I've always worked in ft/lbs when using torque wrenches. When I was
    doing the shims on my old GT750, Haynes only quoted kg/m in the manual.
    I did the conversion for the cam cover bolts (my torque wrench only
    displays ft/lbs) and it was 78ft/lbs.

    Seemed a bit high.... So re-checked. Nope, 78ft/lbs. Haynes and
    misplaced a decimal point. It should have worked out at 7.8ft/lbs.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 11, 2007
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  5. AndrewR

    Paul - xxx Guest

    *ding*

    Annoyed me too.
     
    Paul - xxx, Oct 11, 2007
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  6. AndrewR

    Paul - xxx Guest

    Heheheh, multi-tasking. ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Oct 11, 2007
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  7. AndrewR

    Geo Guest


    98%; go me :)

    I got 48 wrong because I thought the wrong answer (suction) would be the
    one marked as correct. Strictly speaking, it *is* atmospheric pressure, as
    that's what we register as suction. Fair enough, I had to "guesstimate" 44
    so I probably didn't deserve to get it right.

    Most of the questions are pretty much basic high-school physics. Also, about
    a dozen are either badly worded or badly drawn so it's easy to make a
    mistake.


    Geo
     
    Geo, Oct 11, 2007
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  8. AndrewR

    Geo Guest


    Depends what you're used to really, motorcycle magazines always gave engine
    performance in hp and kg*m when I was younger, I can't get used to KW and
    N*m, despite them being more reasonable.

    Geo
     
    Geo, Oct 11, 2007
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    Spete Guest

    For someone who even goes to the local garage to get the chain adjusted, I
    didn't do really bad: 74%
     
    Spete, Oct 11, 2007
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    ogden Guest

    I'm from that lost generation which has a real mix'n'match approach to
    units. If it involves scientific calculations then I can only think in
    SI units, but for real-world applications I'm far more comfortable with
    imperial.

    A bit scary that almost two decades after decimalisation we were still
    being taught (at primary level) with textbooks that waffled about "new
    pence" and had classes on using imperial measures.
     
    ogden, Oct 11, 2007
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  11. AndrewR

    Ace Guest

    Are you bollocks. That accolade must surely go to those of us in our
    40s now.
    So it's not a generation thing, just that you went to a crap school.
    When I was doing my O levels in 1976 everything was "metric" (although
    not necessarily completely correct SI).

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  12. AndrewR

    Rich B Guest

    You're not wrong, though. The obvious thing to do when faced with a
    multi-choice question like that is to scan the data quickly and then
    match it against the available answers - at which point the 1:3 answer
    [1] is obviously the one they want, regardless of the physics
    involved. It's just a logical time-saving strategy. No use in real
    world mechanics, but hey-ho.

    [1] If that's what it is - I CBA to back through the test and look.
     
    Rich B, Oct 11, 2007
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    CT Guest

    *waves*

    Temperature is one thing that I mix up. When it's cold, I use
    Celsius[1] but for hot temperatures I use Farenheit[2].

    [1] "Jeez it's cold - must be around 2 degrees out there"
    [2] "Jeez it's hot - must be in the 90s out there"
     
    CT, Oct 11, 2007
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    darsy Guest

    darsy, Oct 11, 2007
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  15. AndrewR

    Ace Guest

    You're weird. I've never used Fahrenheit for anything, except
    conversions for septics.

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    Ace, Oct 11, 2007
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  16. AndrewR

    Ace Guest

    FFS! What planet was this on? I mean, I had to learn pounds/oz, LSD
    calculations et al when I was younger, but by O levels there was
    clearly no point. Seems like either some schools were very backward,
    or else mine was very advanced, which I doubt. As for teahcres not
    understanding it - how fucking simple would they like it it have been
    then?

    In any case, the exams were set by the Joint Matriculation Board,
    which must have accounted for a significant proportion of the country
    at that time, and I wouldn't have expected such major differences with
    other boards.

    Maybe one of us is misremebering.

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    Ace, Oct 11, 2007
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  17. AndrewR

    Geo Guest


    Well, things are getting a bit clearer , but rather slowly. Most my mates in
    the UK are familiar with metric but not all that comfortable with it and the
    youngest ones finished school around 2000.

    I guess metric will never fully replace imperial. "Fancy 568 millilitres"
    doesn't have the right sound to it.



    Geo
     
    Geo, Oct 11, 2007
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    darsy Guest

    "je voudrais une grande bière"

    HTH
     
    darsy, Oct 11, 2007
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  19. AndrewR

    CT Guest

    "Une biere formidable" (tm) Cane.
     
    CT, Oct 11, 2007
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  20. AndrewR

    darsy Guest

    "une biere serieux"
     
    darsy, Oct 11, 2007
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