Mini-review of a mini-ride

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip Luscher, Jun 23, 2007.

  1. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Collected the R1 today after a day's delay caused by a lost email.

    I've *finally* had a brief moment to take it for a blat.

    First impression: if that's a 600-sized bike then 600s have got a lot
    fatter and taller since the days of my FZR. I think that this is
    mainly due to the tank being somewhat wider than I expected. Not a
    problem, just unexpected.

    There are no significant cut-outs on the tank, which feels a bit odd,
    as though hanging off might be less secure. I didn't try it this time
    out as it was getting late, the roads had odd damp patches and in my
    excitement I forgot to check the tyre pressures. No way was I going to
    bin an R1 in my first ride.

    Riding position seems comfortable and the usual in-line-four tingles
    seemed genrally unobtrusive.

    So, after a quick refuelling, I took it out.

    I was reasonably cautious with the throttle, expecting the front end
    to be pawing at the sky if I was ham-fisted. Erm, no. The speed's
    there, I think (it touched an indicated twice eighty without too much
    trouble); it just doesn't seem to have anything like the punch I'm
    used to. I suppose the EXUP could be stuck as I was kind of expecting
    to hear it cycle when I turned the ignition on. I'll have a Google
    later. Oh, it is a UK model. Or so I'm told.

    Brakes are good with no abrupt bite but grip progressively harder on
    quite a steep curve, though I didn't try them really hard. One odd
    thing, which is almost certainly damper setup related: quick jabs of
    the brakes cause the back end of the bike to rock upwards. My Tuono
    does this a bit but the TL stayed pretty much flat. Odd sensation.

    Now here we come to the interesting bit: steering. It's light.
    Beautifully light. Now I wasn't using anything like the full width of
    the tyres (read 'almost bolt upright') but it turns in bloody fast.
    Once or twice I took a tighter line than I intended, probably because
    of this. I think, more than anything else, this is where the TL's
    handling didn't work for me: the extra weight on the bars gave the
    impression of a seriously ponderous bike even though it would do as I
    asked: I just had to shout a bit. Compared to the Tuono, well, it'll
    take a bit more time to be sure, but the Tuono does have slightly
    heavier steering, though somehow the bike still feels light and
    nimble.

    Stability: there's a bump on a sweeping bend where the A1303 crossed
    the A14. At 85-90-ish My Guzzi and the Tuono would twitch their bars,
    and so does the R1. The TL, with the stock industrial-grade damper,
    wouldn't have deigned to notice. Actually, I'm not sure if the R1 has
    one. The Tuono does, though it's quite light.

    So, am I pleased? Well yes, I guess. It looks very pretty, seems to be
    mechanically sound, handles nicely (as far as I pushed it, which
    wasn't very) and it's fast, unfortunately without really feeling fast,
    though there is a question mark there. I'm glad I bought it but I
    doubt that this will be a long-term keeper.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 23, 2007
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  2. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip Luscher
    Oh. I've just remembered that whirring noise the 'Max used to make when
    you switched on as the V-boost valve cycled...

    <fx: wipes eye>

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  3. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Any plans to replace it yet? When you've healed, obviously.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 23, 2007
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  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip Luscher
    Well, the stable's not exactly empty...

    I probably won't get another 'Max. I really, really enjoyed owning that
    one, but it kind of scratched the itch. Not to say that if one wandered
    past my nose at some point, I'd resist. I mean, getting that one was
    pretty much an impulse buy...

    I'll buy something silly at some point, doubtless.

    I'm sort of looking at a new / nearly new ST1300 at the moment, and
    trying to convince myself not to. I suspect I'll succeed. And I've seen
    a couple of tidy Norton Commandos recently. They're *pretty*. And I'd
    really quite like a DL1000.

    I think I have a problem.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Christofire
    ITYM "sigh of relief".
    "You haven't written, you haven't called..."

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  6. Given the stability issues, I think I'd avoid it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 23, 2007
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older
    I wasn't planning to load it up with Plod gear.

    <looks down at belly>

    You might have a point, thobut.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  8. Pip Luscher

    deadmail Guest

    Hmm. I think I can agree with you there.

    I'm still thinking about the ZXR750k1; but the vendor is really hoping
    for too much; I've offered him 1750 and he's suggesting 3. He's had it
    on ebay twice and hasn't taken a bid above 1750. He's just put it up a
    third time and is looking for a 2 grand minimum bid, appranently it's
    featured in some MCN article on the 27th, maybe he thinks it'll boost
    the price? We'll see. It is pretty though but I *WILL NOT* be dragged
    into paying too much for one.

    Also still pondering a 916 but think that's probably best done as a
    winter purchase when someone's skint.

    And after Platy came to visit, damn him, I'm slightly intregued by a
    sidecar outfit. Maybe one of these which I saw today:
    http://www.uralmotorbikes.info/images/eddie13.jpg
     
    deadmail, Jun 23, 2007
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  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
    typed
    Oh, you ******.

    <adds to list>

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
    Are you quite mad? It doesn't have the *electrically adjustable screen*!

    <rolls eyes>

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  11. Pip Luscher

    Hog Guest

    Also it's slow and incredibly ugly
    <thinks>
    Ah right enough...
     
    Hog, Jun 23, 2007
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  12. Pip Luscher

    deadmail Guest

    Been there, done that. Briefly. Enough to realise there's more to it
    than meets the eye.

    I've even selected the tweed suit I'd wear when riding it.
     
    deadmail, Jun 23, 2007
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  13. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
    Ooooooh!

    <fires up Ebay>

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    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  14. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Expectations, maybe?
    No, seriously. Funny in that I overlooked the check or funny in that I
    consider it important? I'd guess the latter. Bear in mind that it
    really, really doesn't take much to bugger my confidence.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 23, 2007
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  15. Pip Luscher

    deadmail Guest

    Oh, I'm sure that's a pesimistic view. I'd hardly do a Sweller.
     
    deadmail, Jun 23, 2007
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  16. Pip Luscher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Expect the worst and anything else is a bonus. My glass is
    three-quarters empty.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jun 23, 2007
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  17. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique,
    typed
    Quite so.

    I mean, Sweller's incident can hardly be described as "ahead", can it?

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    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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  18. Pip Luscher

    ginge Guest

    I'll help.

    Wait.

    More specifically, wait for the Kawasaki 1400GTR to be released.

    You can thank me later, by letting me have a go.
     
    ginge, Jun 23, 2007
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ginge
    Shit, I'd forgotten about that.
    Given the fucking stupid 'remote ignition key', I doubt I'd be able to
    stop you.

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    SBS#39 OMF#6 Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (Falling apart) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
    Suzuki TS250 "The Africa Single" Honda ST1100 wiv trailer
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 23, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    Hog, Jun 23, 2007
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