MMMMMMmmmmmm, Bowmore single malt and man flu

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Donnie, Aug 17, 2010.

  1. Donnie

    Donnie Guest

    Fucking middle of a cunting British summer and the whole family (except
    eldest daughter somehow) has a cold, ffs!

    For some reason it's hit me hardest so at SWMBO's insistance, whisky is
    called for! Fucking excellent, so Im sat now with a bottle of Bowmore
    Islay Single Malt in front of me and a glass with 2 cubes of ice and
    lashings of whisky.

    Either it will help, or stop my whining, which is what I think SWMBO's
    plan is all along :)
     
    Donnie, Aug 17, 2010
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  2. Donnie

    Jim Guest

    I've got a bottle of a special edition Bowmore Port Cask somewhere which
    is excellent for such situations.

    Funnily enough, it looks like I was a fool to drink it, because it's
    currently trading for 3x what ISTR paying...
     
    Jim, Aug 17, 2010
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  3. Donnie

    Derek Turner Guest

    burn the heretic! a little spting water, yes, ice? what are you some sort
    of colonial?
     
    Derek Turner, Aug 17, 2010
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  4. Donnie

    zymurgy Guest

    Mate, she's a keeper ... :)

    Paul.

    [1] Me, I'm outside of a cheap bottle of Aberlour, which really isn't
    cutting the mustard .. :(
     
    zymurgy, Aug 17, 2010
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  5. Donnie

    CT Guest

    heh, I was about to post something very similar.

    Ice, FFS! I didn't realise Donnie was a Septic.
     
    CT, Aug 18, 2010
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  6. Donnie

    DozynSleepy Guest

    I have no qualms whatsover adding water to whisky in the form of ice.
    Although if it was a very nice Islay single malt I'd probably stick with
    a small jug of water.

    For man flu I'd probably have a Whisky Mac, although for that I'd use
    one of the better blended Scotch Whiskys.
     
    DozynSleepy, Aug 18, 2010
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  7. Donnie

    Ace Guest

    Personally I'd leave out the whisky, but I've never understood why
    people get so shouty about such things. If someone wants to put ice,
    or coke, or whatever, in their single-malt scotch, their VSOP cognac
    or their fucking Dom Pérignon then why the hell shouldn't they?
     
    Ace, Aug 18, 2010
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  8. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Nah, just a higgerant culchie.
    I'm with you on that one. Through yearsh of experimentashun I've come
    to realise that a drop of water releases all sorts of flavours and
    aromas that otherwise stay hidden - and all sorts of hangovers too.
    Takes the edge of some of the harsher stuff too - I get no pleasure
    from a cask strength Laphroiag for example - I'm too busy wheezing and
    crying.
    Supermarket own brand for that: I always keep a bottle of cooking
    whisky for that purpose.

    One of my peccadilloes is smuggling the odd bottle of likely-to-be
    execrable whisk(e)y into the house concealed at the bottom of a bag.
    I've found some gems, though - the bottle of Aldi Irish malt, for
    example: smooth, sweet, smokey. Even lovelier for its price, at about
    eight quid. Bell's Islander: a blend of Islay malts - again,
    unexpectedly smooth and very palatable and at a palatable price.
    Finding a diamond in a turd, that's what I like to do.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 18, 2010
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  9. Donnie

    Jim Guest

    There is an Islay blend called Black Bottle which is pretty great for
    the money, specially the 10 y.o.
     
    Jim, Aug 18, 2010
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  10. Donnie

    Krusty Guest

    *applause*
     
    Krusty, Aug 18, 2010
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  11. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    I'm not unfamiliar with BB, nor its close relly, Poit Dubh. I'm an
    equal opportunity whisky drinker, I guess - given the opportunity, I'll
    drink the bugger.

    I do have a strong preference for Scottish Single Malts and within
    that, the smoother and tastier the better, preferably well-peated with
    a bit of smoke. Sweetness is often a good thing, medicinal seaweed has
    its place but not high on my list. As my palate ages it has become
    less refined and I find I'm erring towards the stronger tastes, however
    - I'd never have gone for the investigations into blends and vatted
    malts twenty years ago, but it has been and continues to be a valuable
    and largely enjoyable experience. Every day's a schoolday - the older
    I get, the more I realise I don't know.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 18, 2010
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  12. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    That's a nasty dose of clap you've got there. You can get tablets for
    that, you know.

    Anyway - whisky and ice. With a blend it makes little difference at
    what temperature you drink it. With an American whisky or bourbon, it
    makes little difference apart from taking the edge off the raw spirit
    which can be improved again by adding Coke and, in some cases, leaving
    out the spirit altogether.

    A Scottish single malt, otoh, is intended to be consumed at room
    temperature and if chilled may well throw a haze in disgust. Chilling
    it affects the flavour, and not in a good way. Adding water also
    affects the flavour, but not in a noticeably bad way in that with most
    malts it will just take the edge off as the spirit is diluted, but with
    some it allows the spirit to come out of the shade and allows full
    flavour development. Sticking ice in it is rather like being served a
    fine steak in a fine restaurant and immediately covering it in English
    mustard, just because you "like the taste of mustard", in which case
    you might as well cover a burger with mustard and leave the steak for
    somebody who appreciates it.
     
    SIRPip, Aug 18, 2010
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  13. Donnie

    Ace Guest

    IN YOUR OPINION.

    Why do you feel that everyone has to share your tastes?

    I mean, I don't like my fillet steak cooked to a cinder and smothered
    in ketchup, but I have a good friend who does, and while it can be
    embarrassing explaining it to a French waiter, I don't see any reason
    he should not continue to do so.
     
    Ace, Aug 18, 2010
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  14. Donnie

    boots Guest

    One I & many others would share too. I was once stranded in a place
    called Latheron Wheel for a few days. It was pretty clear in the bar
    there that asking for anything other than a glass & maybe a drop of
    water with a malt would see you refused service.
    My youngest insists on having ketchup with popadoms.
     
    boots, Aug 18, 2010
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  15. Donnie

    Ben Guest

    He's obviously a complete heathen. He forgot the coke.
     
    Ben, Aug 18, 2010
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  16. Donnie

    SIRPip Guest

    Yes, dear. No need to shout. I knew I'd hook you with my response, in
    the same way that you knew you'd hook me with this one. I only offer
    my opinions, especially when something concerns tastes which are,
    obviously very subjective. In this case the above is not just my
    opinion however, it is an opinion shared widely amongst many whisky
    drinkers and not only the casual drinking types, but those who style
    themselves connisseurs of the water of life, not to mention those who
    make a living writing about it (the filthy hacks).
    Where did I state that? You carefully snipped the justification I made
    for my opinion, so you must have removed the part where I made it law
    to comply. Single malt whisky, unlike many other spirits, is not
    chill-filtered to the full extent of the process. This leaves
    congeners present in the spirit and it is their presence that will
    cause a haze to form if whisky is chilled. The haze is not an
    indication that the whisky is contaminated, but it is an indicator that
    something has occurred, and not in a good way.

    Apart from anything else, the addition of ice will lower the
    temperature of the spirit to a level where the taste will change and
    IME not for the better. Not only that, but it will chill and even numb
    the tongue, dulling the sense of taste - and what's the point of that
    when you've paid thirty quid for a bottle of something that tastes
    nice? Single malt whisky is not intended to be drunk as a cooling,
    refreshing draught, you know.
    But would he suggest that you have your steak as he has his? I used to
    prefer steak well-done. I mean, I liked it crispy round the edges. I
    understood this to be a test of a chef, in that if he can cook it to
    such a level and retain juices within the meat, he's doing a good job.
    Some years ago, I was presented with a steak which was anything but
    well done and I realised the error of my ways and the error of
    'testing' chefs. It tasted so much more pleasant and was much more
    tender. I still don't like it Burnt-style, mind, I don't really want a
    puddle of blood on my plate as I might confuse it with the ketchup.
    Medium rare is as much as I like it cooked sur le continong, but I'll
    go rare in the UK.

    I do not try to dictate how people take their whisky, but I will try to
    give them the benefit of thirty years experimentation. If a visitor
    asks for ice when I dribble them a tot of 1978 Ardbeg, I'd grind my
    teeth, mind. Then I'd get them to try it without and see what they
    think. This approach has worked well so far, but if a visitor insisted
    on dumping a mixer in the galss with the whisky, they wouldn't get the
    hundred quid a bottle stuff. I mean, get real!
     
    SIRPip, Aug 18, 2010
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  17. Donnie

    Hog Guest

    I've spent a lot of time getting stoned and drunk in that very location.
    Couple of New Years too. Until my mate Chicken George died of a heart
    atttack before reaching 30. Mushroom grew in some abundance in the vicinity.
    You would indeed be frowned upon for spoiling good malt. Though we consumed
    Woods rum more regularly.

    Did you find Whaligoe Steps during your stay.
     
    Hog, Aug 18, 2010
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  18. Donnie

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:08:55 +0000 (UTC), "SIRPip"

    snip>
    What a load of bollocks.

    So you advocate denying something they like because you think it's
    wrong? Next thing you'll be saying nobody can have a litre class
    sports bike unless they can ride it to it's limits all the time.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Aug 18, 2010
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, boots
    Christ, I hope they go bust.

    That sort of bollocks is absolute pretension. I'm the paying customer,
    *I* choose how I have my food and drink.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Aug 18, 2010
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  20. Donnie

    boots Guest

    Didn't do any exploring, I was sans car[1] waiting for a replacement
    before proceeding to Kirkwall to bring the benefits of mobile
    telephony to the deprived islanders.

    [1] Having comprehensively stuffed a 3 month old Vogue EFI into an icy
    ditch.
     
    boots, Aug 18, 2010
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