Monza

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by rockit, May 18, 2008.

  1. rockit

    rockit Guest

    Having just watched the edited superbike races on SBS, I have a couple of
    queries.
    First observation is that the GP program seems to be closely following the
    supers this year, and those doesn't ring a bell historically for me. Could
    research it, but at landline pace can't afford the time.
    Secondly, the track was claimed to be fast, so too is Phillip Island in that
    regard. Bayliss broke the lap record getting pole at 1.44.9 For the GP
    bikes, the times quoted on mcnews gives 1.33's., yet the top speeds weren't
    excessively high. My inclination for P.I. is that there is only 3 or 4 secs.
    difference between both classes, why the disparity at Monza?
    rockit
     
    rockit, May 18, 2008
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  2. rockit

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Dunno but at a guess I'd say it's 'cause the MotoGP bikes accellerate and
    brake much quicker than Superbikes do, but don't have a dramatically higher
    top-speed; so a track where there's chicanes or tight corners at the start
    and end of the straight is gonna' really highlight the differences.
    Phillip Island is much more flowing noe that Monza has those stop-go
    chicanes........
     
    Knobdoodle, May 18, 2008
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  3. rockit

    Nev.. Guest

    Minimum weight differences between the classes will also exaggerate the
    differences with power mentioned above. The GP bikes are 14kg lighter
    which is going to help them carry more speed through the corners. Would
    the GP bike geometry will be more aggressive too?

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
     
    Nev.., May 18, 2008
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  4. rockit

    rockit Guest

    Monza!... hey, I've just watched it - never seen that happen before, they
    held the race at the wrong track!!!
    No wonder Stoner got lost. :eek:
    rockit
    (no rain - too much stress?)
     
    rockit, May 18, 2008
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  5. rockit

    JL Guest

    Also allows them to accelerate faster for the same hp (and I believe
    they actually have more HP), and change direction faster which allows
    them to get through chicanes faster (even if the corner speeds were
    the same).
    Probably given street bikes have to be rideable in a wider variety of
    conditions and I don't think they're allowed to directly change the
    rake(1) (although of course the 16.5" front steepens the rake over the
    stock 17' front). I've not however seen any articles reporting the
    actual geometry of current GP bikes - I'd imagine it's top secret for
    fear of giving competitors and advantage.

    JL
    Clemopedia what do the SBK rules say please ?!
     
    JL, May 19, 2008
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  6. rockit

    JL Guest

    IIRC the 999R F06 had adjustable rake and adjustable swingarm as well
    but I could be making that up

    JL
    (don't even know where to go to check that !)
     
    JL, May 20, 2008
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  7. rockit

    theo Guest

    My son's 999S has adjustable rake.

    Theo
     
    theo, May 20, 2008
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