[QUOTE="R"] Sweller spoke: Oh I dunno, in the early 1970's I went to half a dozen funerals of mates in their late teens/early twenties who had died in bike accidents.[/QUOTE] I've only ever been to one funeral for a mate that died on a bike, and that was mid-80s. Now it's mainly the old gimmers, although my mate of 47 died last year.