Motobike maintenance

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ChromieVandy, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. ChromieVandy

    ChromieVandy Guest

    I was wondering how many of you service your bikes yourself or take them to
    a mechanic to do ?

    Is it easy servicing a bike ?

    I've serviced some cars over the years, with things like spark plugs, oil,
    oil filter, fuel filter, pollen filters air filters etc and was just curious
    how easy a bike was having neve touched a bike before. Shame on me.

    Hey its either ask stupid questions in here or watch WAGS botique with ball
    and chain.
     
    ChromieVandy, Mar 23, 2007
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  2. ChromieVandy

    ChromieVandy Guest

    Thanks for that. will have a search for for salad dodgers maintenance tales
    tommorow evening as its past my bedtime, I need 8 hours or I don't look
    pretty in the morning, **** it who am I fooling I feel so un-pretty now.

    ....comfort eats
     
    ChromieVandy, Mar 23, 2007
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  3. *Waves*

    I do mine.
    Piece of piss, except when it's not.
    What bike have you got?
    Or go downstairs to see what one of the dogs is kicking off at to find he's
    just got the arse at one of the others, who's kipping in the first one's
    bed. That reads terribly but **** it. Bastard dog.
     
    Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot, Mar 24, 2007
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  4. ChromieVandy

    Cab Guest

    I've not serviced my GSX at all, myself. I always get a man in. The
    last time I really fettled with a bike was my Divvy. But real fettling
    (as in dismantling an engine, etc) was well over 10 years ago for me.
     
    Cab, Mar 24, 2007
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  5. Long answer alert:

    In theory, servicing a bike is easier than a car because virtually
    everything is within easy reach. A lot of components are exposed, and
    there are fewer of them.

    Take changing brake pads, as an example. On some bikes you don't even
    have to remove the wheel: you can hoick the pads out with the caliper in
    situ.

    Now the problems....

    A lot of modern bikes, like cars, have complex electronics and FI
    systems. Thse are not generally home serviceable, unless you have the
    right kit. OTOH, they don't need looking at very foten.

    Unless you buy a brand new bike, you can pretty certain that at some
    stage some twonk has had a go at servicing it himself - "because it's
    easy, right? An' I've serviced motors...." - and buggered something up.
    At the very least this will be some vital fastener with a mullered head,
    or a stripped thread, or just something left off entirely because he
    dropped it and couldn't be arsed to hunt for it.

    There's also the issue of corrosion. On a car, most of the vital bits
    are hidden under a bonnet and protected from all the nasty road crap and
    salt. On a bike, they aren't. Fairings provide some protection, but not
    much. I've known the simplest task turn into a nightmare because some
    bloody screw or bolt has welded itself into an immobile lump of
    corrosion.

    The basics, as you list above, are pretty straightforward, although
    there are some bikes (Honda vee-fours come to mind) where even getting
    at the spark plugs is a nightmare.

    With advanced servicing (valve clearances etc) things can start to get
    very complex very quickly, because a lot of bikes will need the cams
    removing to adjust the clearances, so the possibilities for fucking it
    up are endless.

    Get a decent manual and tackle the basics, by all means. If you want to
    do advanced stuff, nothing is better than having SWK standing by your
    shoulder.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 24, 2007
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  6. ChromieVandy

    Krusty Guest

    I do everything myself, apart from the bits on a new bike that are
    needed to make a warranty claim easier. Even then I re-service it
    myself when it comes back from the dealer, as there's *always*
    something they either don't do, or do badly.
    It depends entirely on the bike. Changing the plugs on some is a 2
    minute job that a monkey could do, but a 2 hour job requiring the
    removal of shed-loads of bits on others.

    Likewise fuel filters - a relatively simple job on carb bikes, but more
    complex on FI bikes as the filter's usually inside the petrol tank.

    The big difference between cars & bikes though is valve clearances.
    These take care of themselves on any car made in the last few decades,
    but need manually adjusting on a bike. This can mean removing lots of
    parts from the top of the engine, including the camshafts, leaving the
    possibility of bent valves & fucked pistons when you put things back
    together. It can also mean the bike being off the road for a couple of
    days as you hunt down the specific size & type of shims you need to
    correct the clearances.
    Polishing your eyeballs with an angle grinder[1] would be preferable to
    watching that shite.

    [1] MSOTHS [2]
    [2] Makes Sign Of The Holy Sparks.

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    '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
     
    Krusty, Mar 24, 2007
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  7. ChromieVandy

    Pip Luscher Guest

    [...]

    Now the problems....

    A lot of modern bikes, like cars, have complex electronics and FI
    systems. Thse are not generally home serviceable, unless you have the
    right kit. OTOH, they don't need looking at very foten.[/QUOTE]

    TBH, the only routine servicing they usually need is throttle
    balancing and fuel filter replacement. There are a few things that
    *might* need doing: BMW K100s have a 'throttle closed' switch whose
    adjustment is supposed to be checked from time to time but it's fiddly
    rather than difficult. My Guzzi has an idle mixture screw on the ECU
    but I haven't touched that in years.

    I guess that this might get harder if catalysts become more common or
    emission regulations get tightened, though.

    The only FI problems I've had to date were when my K100's fuel filter
    split and my Guzzi engine temperature sensor developed a fault and had
    to be replaced. That was a bastard to find: when I put a meter on it,
    it read correctly. I had an idea it was that sensor and eventually I
    hit upon the solution of just unplugging it; I figured that the ECU
    might simply select a default 'get it started' value. It did, because
    the bike started normally. I proved it by shoving a resistor of a
    value appropriate to a 'cold engine' reading into the connector; it
    behaved fine until it warmed up fully. I was dead chuffed. Not so at
    the price of a new sensor, though. For a simple thermistor I paid
    nearly fifty quid. Ouch.
    My Tuono isn't exactly easy either, especially as there are four of
    the little buggers.
     
    Pip Luscher, Mar 24, 2007
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  8. ChromieVandy

    Krusty Guest

    I think you should setup a live webcam feed so we can all have a good
    laugh in the comfort of our own homes.

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    '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger 955i '96 Tiger '79 Fantic Hiro 250
     
    Krusty, Mar 24, 2007
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  9. Eight hours? You lucky, lucky, lucky bastard. I'd kill for eight hours.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 24, 2007
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  10. You buying?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 24, 2007
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