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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Slider, Oct 29, 2006.

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    porl Guest

    What is the exchange rate between four leaf clovers and world
    championships?
     
    porl, Oct 29, 2006
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    elyob Guest

    Got 7-1 on betfair 2 mins before the start ... only chucked on a couple of
    quid, so have spent that beer money already. But it was beer of sweet
    success ...
     
    elyob, Oct 29, 2006
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  3. Well yes but that was Troy just being his stubborn self and sticking a
    massive two fingers up to part of the Ducati establishment - even though
    "he has an extremely good relationship with Ducati".

    <cynicism alert>

    Fair play to him but wouldn't racing be a damn sight more exciting if
    these chaps who can pull off stonking single race victories like this
    were a bit more consistent the rest of the season. It seem to take the
    threat of losing their contract to make them pull their socks up and
    ride as well as the other "on form" riders.
     
    Paul Corfield, Oct 30, 2006
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    Ace Guest

    You what? Have you not been following WSB then?

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    Ace, Oct 30, 2006
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  5. No. I know he won but I don't what he did to win.
     
    Paul Corfield, Oct 30, 2006
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    ogden Guest

    He racked up more points over the course of the season than anyone else.
     
    ogden, Oct 30, 2006
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    Ace Guest

    What, by consistently finishing at or near the front of the race?

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    Ace, Oct 30, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    Yeah:) I wondered about that. has he been offered a GP ride with Ducati, or
    as he (as reported) staying in WSB?
    He didn't do too badly in WSB though, but there're a few other in the GP
    circus who don't have the "top" bikes until sometihng happens that makes the
    teams sit up and take notice. I mean Colin Edwards hasn't had the same bike
    as Rossi for most of the season, then, when he got one, and he was a lot
    further up the field when he had one.


    It seem to take the
    Some people do respond better to the stick than the carrot though.


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    Beav, Oct 30, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    *snort*


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    Beav, Oct 30, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    Sometimes twice.


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    Beav, Oct 30, 2006
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    ogden Guest

    **** knows.
     
    ogden, Oct 30, 2006
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  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Beav
    YAGordon Brown, AICMFF tax rises.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Oct 30, 2006
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    antonye Guest

    That's not true at all. Troy was asked by Ducati to field the
    second bike and he accepted. If he really wanted to stick
    "two fingers up" then he would have said no.

    Troy is an excellent rider and a really nice fella as well. He
    left Ducati to go to Honda on very good terms. The money
    was too good for him to turn down and at the time Federico
    Minoli told him that he understood his decision, was sad to
    see him go but that if he did change his mind there would
    always be a job for him - Federico told that to us when we
    had a chat with him at the factory early last year.
    Troy started out the 2006 WSB season on a bike he'd
    never raced on before, and won eight races in a row and
    took 16 podiums out of 24 races over the season - if that's
    not consistent then what is?!

    Troy had already resigned with Ducati in SBK for 2007, so
    he had nothing to prove or to gain by riding in MotoGP at
    the weekend, but he wanted to ride because he is a true
    sportsman. As Troy said after the race: "Seven days off
    the beer and I come up a treat."
     
    antonye, Oct 31, 2006
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    antonye Guest

    Then I'm afraid you recollect wrong. I spoke to Federico Minoli,
    CEO of Ducati, in February on 2005 just after Troy left. He said
    that they parted on friendly terms. Given Troy's long history
    with Ducati, and the fact that he is now back "in the fold", there
    is no reason to think otherwise.

    Besides, why would Ducati fire him only for him to move to
    the satellite Honda Camel squad? In terms of money/sponsorship
    this is a step up, so he must have been doing something right?

    Replacing him with Checa wasn't a move up either - Checa was
    previously at the Yamaha satellite team and his best result
    in 2004 was a single 2nd place among a smattering of mid-table
    placings.

    Replacing Checa with Gibernau for 2006 was a move that could
    have payed off if Gibbers didn't bring his baggage with him. He
    should have been able to wipe the slate clean over his battles with
    Rossi and made a decent attempt on a bike that can win races.
    I personally think that Rossi has done a number on him so badly
    that Gibbers will retire within the next 2 years, slowly fading away
    from the limelight in a Biaggi-esque fashion.

    Bayliss is a world class rider and when things go right he can get
    the results and make it look easy, just as you said in another
    post. Ducati suffered terribly in 2004 because they didn't improve
    the bike over the great start they made in 2003, and some say
    they made it worse. Bayliss had a terrible year, missing out on
    points in 8 races for a variety of reasons, not all down to his
    riding. Ducati spent 2005 putting things right and the latter
    half of last year the bike was getting the results, including wins
    for Capirossi. This season has proven to be their best yet with four
    race wins, four second places and a third place and with Capirossi
    getting third in the championship. Next year will be interesting with
    the switch to 800cc, and some are saying that the new bike is
    faster than the old one ... but we'll have to wait and see.

    Getting Bayliss back on a WSB shows that Ducati have confidence
    in him as a rider and also shows just how good he is. He may
    have played the points game in the latter half of the season,
    but (as Hayden has shown) you don't have to win em all to
    win the championship!
     
    antonye, Oct 31, 2006
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    Switters Guest

    I was gutted. I figured the race wouldn't live up to the hype, but I
    didn't quite expect that.

    I didn't catch what the circuit commentator said at the time, and it
    happened on one of the 2 corners that couldn't be seen from my seat.
    There was lots of cheering, and I thought he'd taken Hayden, given that
    there were a lot of yellow hats and shirts around. When everyone
    including McCoy went passed, I knew how wrong I'd been.

    Still, it was bloody hot and the usual great atmosphere.
     
    Switters, Oct 31, 2006
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  16. Don't you imagine that Mr Minoli would say that anyway? Sorry to be
    cynical but he's hardly likely to reveal the truth to Ducati fans
    visiting the factory now is he? He's not going to give you the potential
    for a journalistic scoop if you opted to sell the story on nor is he
    going to present an view of life in Ducati that is anything than a
    lovely shade of sparkling Ducati Red and White?
    And this is what they referred to many times on Sunday. I claim no
    originality for my comments in my post - I was regurgitating what was
    said by the commentating duo. I tend to believe what they say as they
    are suitably close to the people who count.

    Either way none of us here will ever know for certain as Troy and Ducati
    top management are not going to pop round for tea to tell us. (Well they
    might drop by at Ant's house).
     
    Paul Corfield, Oct 31, 2006
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