My Fench mini tour

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by David Thomas, Jul 2, 2007.

  1. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Had a little excursion to France last week... very enjoyable it was too!

    I found the roads were superb and reasonably traffic free, the drivers to be
    very considerate and non-aggressive and despite making the odd error in a
    couple of town centres the French drivers seemed to cut you some slack, oh
    and it was real weird not having any tailgaters[1] for a few days. they just
    didn't seem to do it.

    Probably the most relaxing few days I have had on the roads in thirty years
    of motoring, despite getting used to driving on the other side and learning
    a few new rules.

    Did I just get lucky or is it generally that way?

    David

    [1] Except round Paris.
     
    David Thomas, Jul 2, 2007
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    dog Guest

    you were probably lucky about the lack of tailgaters. tailgating is pretty
    normal, and for the most part i would say if you're being tailgated move
    back to the inside lane you irritating ****.
     
    dog, Jul 2, 2007
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  3. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Oh, and they also have single carriageways over there too.

    David
     
    David Thomas, Jul 2, 2007
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    If you keep away from Paris, stay way from the Mediterranean and other
    obvious grockle spots and travel when it isn't a school holiday.

    I reckon this is mainly a result of a less densely populated country
    with a more comprehensive and ever expanding motorway network. You can
    get caught in a horrendous traffic when something goes awry, but over
    four years of making at least 5 return trips of 450 miles each way on
    French roads, and twenty before that with at least one usually even
    longer trip a year I can count the number of times I have been stuck in
    a UK type motorway jam, or had to come off a closed autoroute, on the
    fingers of one hand.

    As to tailgating, it has to be said that lane-hogging is less common in
    my experience. There is a lot of two lane autoroute, and even the real
    press on types tend to get back in the inside lane whenever possible.
    The provision of a crawler lane on anything resembling a steep hill
    also helps. The result being though, that if you do spend more time than
    is absolutely necessary in the outside lane, you may find yourself being
    tailgated, flashed and honked at by someone in a hurry. Having said
    that, because of the traffic free conditions it is pretty obvious that a
    lot of cars have cruise control engaged. People don't seem to mind
    passing taking a fair while, and don't hurry themselves to pass you. It
    is important, however, to check for the occasional big Merc or BMW
    closing fast. Personally I prefer to override the cruise control and
    squirt past a bit faster unless a mirror check has confirmed a long
    empty straight behind me.




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    Pete Fisher, Jul 2, 2007
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  5. David Thomas

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Ah, if you mean NSL single carriageway roads, then whilst they don't
    exactly tailgate they do have a habit of following pretty closely then
    blasting past at the first opportunity, only to proceed no more than
    5KPH quicker than you are. In my experience, the adherence to speed
    limits out of town is far greater than in the UK. You do see the a few
    vehicles (often bikes) really pressing on, but I would say not as often
    as you do here (as long as you steer clear of UKRM French run
    itineraries at least).

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    Pete Fisher, Jul 2, 2007
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    Champ Guest

    Generally, I've found the standard of driving in France to be pretty
    good. This is perhaps because the French drive a bit more like me -
    faster, and with an intention to 'make progress'.

    However, I have witnessed a lot more tailgating than I usually see in
    the UK. This is just the standard technque to get the guy in front to
    move over. It's never happened to me, cos I'm either going fast
    enough, or I've moved over, so it doesn't bother me.
     
    Champ, Jul 2, 2007
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    christofire Guest

    I quite like the idea of leaving your left indicator on, to show you
    want to get past or are trying to overtake the thing in front,
    depending on your POV.
     
    christofire, Jul 2, 2007
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  8. David Thomas

    David Thomas Guest

    Ah I tend to move back to the inside lane sharpish so don't experience much
    in the way of tailgating on multi-lane roads.

    I didn't really explain myself very well, what I meant was tailgaiting in
    towns, I find that if you are travelling around 30-35mph in a 30 limit in
    the UK there is always someone up you arse, but in France I generally found
    that the car behind was a good distance back.

    David
     
    David Thomas, Jul 2, 2007
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    dog Guest

    or that you are *in the process of* overtaking.
     
    dog, Jul 2, 2007
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    Danny Guest

    -snip tale-

    I go there 5 or 6 times a year and my experience is similar to yours,
    although I've noticed lately that there are more people hogging the
    middle/outside lanes and there are now tailgaters. Still a much nicer
    place to ride than here.
     
    Danny, Jul 2, 2007
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    Des Guest

    I think it was Champ who pointed out, quite perceptively, that France has
    this 'tradition' of two wheels; that every brat is on a 'Solex' [1] at the
    age of fourteen and whilst few keep it up (motorcycling still being very
    much a 'minority' activity), they keep the fond memories of two wheels when
    they move onto four, and are thus somewhat more 'bike-aware' than the
    Brits.
    Well, quite. 'la France n'est pas Paris, mais Paris c'est bien la France'.

    Y.

    [1] http://www.bullnet.co.uk/shops/test/velosole.htm
     
    Des, Jul 2, 2007
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