MZ again

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by The Older Gentleman, May 9, 2009.

  1. Thought I'd try my luck, as it's been sitting under a tarp for the last
    two or three weeks.

    Fuel on, choke on, kick over twice, choke off, ignition on, and...

    Kick....

    And...

    ....it started first kick! Result.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 9, 2009
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    crn Guest

    The sneaky bastard is just lulling you into a false sense of security.

    Spent the afternoon playing MIG on the Bantam centrestand, A bit of
    extra metal to replace the wear and the back wheel now comes off the
    ground.

    With any luck the new gearshift spring and some gaskets should be here
    on monday.
     
    crn, May 9, 2009
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    Dan L Guest

    Saw some LE's at Kempton Park today and thought of you.

    They truly are one fucked up motorcycle.
     
    Dan L, May 9, 2009
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    crn Guest

    But the eciloP absolutely loved them.
     
    crn, May 9, 2009
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  5. In those days, they didn't carry guns, villains put up their hands and
    said: "It's a fair cop, guv," if they shouted "STOP!", Plod cars did
    45mph and little old ladies always made them cups of tea. Having an
    ineffectual motorcycle was just one more thing on the list.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 9, 2009
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  6. In concept and layout, yes, absolutely.

    In engineering and quality, very much of their time, I'm afraid.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 9, 2009
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    crn Guest

    They were a complete revolution in their day, massively over engineered
    and good for at least 100,000 miles. Nobody else would think of making
    a 200cc water cooled shaft driven boxer.
    They later put the same machine into a conventional frame and called it
    the Valiant. Pretty little bike but horribly expensive for a 200.
     
    crn, May 9, 2009
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    crn Guest

    The police requirement was for a quiet urban patrol machine. The copper
    on the beat needed a pushbike replacement to potter around the streets
    at night without waking people. Bantams etc were too noisy and soon fell
    apart carting 15 stone of copper around every day. The LE was the ideal
    tool for the job, 50mph was more than plenty.

    By modern standards they perform about as well as a modern 125, so still
    a credible city commuter. How many CG125s will make it to 60 years old ?.
     
    crn, May 9, 2009
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    crn Guest

    Indeed, basically the same mechanics with air cooled OHV barrels grafted on.
     
    crn, May 9, 2009
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  10. As the earliest ones are now over 30 years old, I'd say plenty. Trouble
    is, it's abuse and neglect that kills bikes like that, not any inherent
    defect in the machine itself.

    <Makes Sign of Holy Pushrods>
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 9, 2009
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    Tim Guest

    My in-laws used to regularly travel Ayrshire to/from Berkshire on the
    LE. I can't say I fancy the time it took to do this trip, but it seemed
    to work for them at the time.
     
    Tim, May 10, 2009
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    Tim Guest

    MSOHP is not a laughing matter and putting "LOL" after it may require
    your appearance before the ecclesiastical court.
     
    Tim, May 10, 2009
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  13. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Tim
    <sharpens pitchfork>

    Who's got the flaming torches?

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, May 10, 2009
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  14. The Sign of Holy Pushrods is probably the oldest (and certainly the
    Holiest) genuflection belonging to ukrm.

    It is made by pointing the index fingers on each hand, held in close
    parallel, to the sky and then moving them up and down in imitation of
    the aforesaid pushrods.

    It is chiefly intended as a sign of homage to the Holy Honda CG125, a
    machine of great significance.
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 10, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    It's a sign of your lack of grip on reality, is what it is.
     
    Ace, May 10, 2009
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  16. The Older Gentleman wrote:

    Wotcha.
    .... and this is news ?


    They all do that, Sir.




    (Sometimes)
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, May 10, 2009
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    I took the 301 out for its inaugural test blat today.

    On the whole I was relatively pleased by it. It appears
    to be able to hold 70-80mph, no problem. The handling was
    light, neutral and predictable. The brakes were adequate
    and the electrics all functioned properly. I quite liked
    ring-dinging my way about the countryside, it turned out
    to be a nice bimble in pleasant weather round the Wyre
    forest.

    On the not so good side, the centre stand return springs
    are useless and every attempt at spirited cornering was
    accompanied by a clattering sound as the centre stand kept
    hitting the deck.

    The bust gear change return spring is annoying if you are
    trying to hustle the thing.

    The forks are not in as good a condition as I first thought.
    Whilst there is no corrosion on the sliders, they appear to
    be worn to the point that even the brand new oil seals I'd
    fitted were unable to stop fork oil weeing out down the fork
    legs and then backwards over everything else.
    Ho hum, replacement sliders/forks required methinks.

    The rear shocks are also showing their age and whilst there
    is some damping, they are beginning to lose the battle.
    Work required.

    The "Golden boy" tyres left me feeling a little cautious
    in the corners, whilst OK on a nice dry day, I'd not want
    to test the limits of adhesion in the wet.
    Does anyone have any recommendations for decent rubber for
    these bikes? Bearing in mind the rear wheel on the Saxon
    301 VE is a 16" item.
     
    Alex Ferrier, May 10, 2009
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  18. I reckon the most likely comparison is the C90. Of which Honda have made
    (albeit in several variants) a rather silly number.

    Mind, later CGs are not the same either. Dunno how much different counts as
    "not the same machine" - the latest one is nothing like the original, either
    the CG or the C90.
     
    Austin Shackles, May 10, 2009
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  19. <Nods in approval>
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 10, 2009
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  20. The *what*???
     
    The Older Gentleman, May 10, 2009
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