[QUOTE="Cane"] My point is that this so called "individuality" no longer exists. It's been, watered down, re-packaged by focus groups and sold back to the masses. It's become just that, boring.[/QUOTE] Living a few miles from Weston Super Mare means that I get to show up at some of the regular rides and events which end up at the seafront. Rocking up on one of the SOBs always gathers a bigger collection of interested admirers than any of the latest sportsbikes or blinged up Hardleys. Modern bikes have become a boring collection of me-too offerings from the big manufacturers.