need help no sprak

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by xxchriskingxx, Mar 10, 2007.

  1. i have big bear 400 no sprak i replace the IGNITION COIL ASSY and
    the STATOR ASSY it stop working and the stator was full oil i
    maybe over filled it and then it stop and then i replace STATOR
    ASSY .. can any one help me on this one
     
    xxchriskingxx, Mar 10, 2007
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  2. xxchriskingxx

    Gene Cash Guest

    No sprak de eenglish?

    Sorry, my secret decoder ring is broken today.

    -gc
     
    Gene Cash, Mar 10, 2007
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  3. What kind of motorcycle is it? What year?

    Is it a 2-stroke or a 4-stroke?

    Does it have a battery?

    The only "Big Bear" motorcycle I ever heard of was an old Yamaha, made
    in the 1960's, and it wasn't a 400, it was a 305cc 2-stroke model that
    had ignition points and needed a battery for the lights.

    It's normal for *some* 4-stroke motorcycles to have oil inside the
    stator cover. If a 2-stroke motorcycle has oil inside the cover, that
    usually means the oil seal behind the stator is leaking.

    Does this engine have mechanical ignition points or does it have a
    magnetic pickup coil that sends a signal to a "CDI" or ignition
    control unit?

    Mechanical ignition points have to be clean and dry and properly
    gapped and the timing has to be set when you install new points.
    Ignition points won't work if they have oil on them.

    If you have an electronic ignition, the magnetic pickup coil will
    still work OK even if there is oil on the pickup.

    Electronic ignition systems never go out of time and it is rarely
    necessary to replace the pickup coil, just check all the wiring to see
    if it is clean and the connections are tight.

    CDI's (ignition control units) either work, or they don't, there's
    seldom any time that they work intermittently.
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Mar 10, 2007
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  4. xxchriskingxx

    Gene Cash Guest

    Hey, if he can't even communicate in English, much less give basic
    information like what bike, why bother?

    -gc
     
    Gene Cash, Mar 11, 2007
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  5. xxchriskingxx

    fweddybear Guest

    i have big bear 400 no sprak i replace the IGNITION COIL ASSY and
    Why bother? What if that guy was you and you needed help getting
    something you had running? I am sure you would be trying to find an answer
    and I am also sure you wouldn't like reading snide remarks either. If you
    can't help, don't.....just because you may know something he doesn't in this
    area, doesn't mean he isn't smarter than you..... as for me, I learn alot
    just reading these newsgroups. Give the guy credit for wanting to learn
    about what he owns... I am sure he will apreciate your help.
    At least the guy is trying to wrench his own bike. Its true, we need
    more info to help him out better.. I am sure that info will be forthcoming
    so he can get the help he needs. Plese be a little more patient.

    Ok.... I am putting on my flame retardant suit now....

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, Mar 11, 2007
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  6. What is the meaning of my life? Why am I here? Helping strangers in
    need is part of the Judaeo-Christian ethic. Mitzvah. Charity. The
    Golden Rule. What Hillel said to the Roman soldier who was tormenting
    him. The parable and paradox of the Good Samaritan. Finally, helping
    other motorcyclists is part of the tradition of brotherhood of all
    bikers.

    What is the meaning of *your* life? Why are you here, if not
    to answer messages from cyberspace?
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Mar 11, 2007
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  7. xxchriskingxx

    Gene Cash Guest

    Since I'm asking folks to take time out their day and help, I'd be sure
    to at least communicate what my problem was, with as many details as
    possible, so as not to waste anyone's time. It's simple respect to folks
    that might help.

    A barely readable post is rude, ignorant, illiterate, and just gets
    people to poke fun at you for looking like a moron.
    That's why I would compose a post in coherent English, to avoid such a
    situation, and to avoid looking like I have the IQ of a potted plant.
    If the guy can't even say what bike he has, then what's the chances
    he'll actually try what I suggest, and relay the results in a form where
    I could help interpret what's actually going on?

    Probably nil.

    So like I said: why bother?

    -gc
     
    Gene Cash, Mar 11, 2007
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  8. xxchriskingxx

    Gene Cash Guest

    He just sounds like the retard that sprayed WD-40 on his brake pads,
    after I suggested that might not be such a good idea.

    Or like the guy that put an aluminum pin in his brake torque arm, and
    was so surprised when it sheared off and his caliper swung around and
    locked up his rear tire.

    Some people you just can't help. I was saying if he can't write a
    coherent post then he probably can't follow simple instructions.

    -gc
     
    Gene Cash, Mar 12, 2007
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  9. Try and help, at least a little bit, before you judge a
    person to be beyond all help.
    instructions.

    Have you ever watched after race interviews, where the
    winner of the race could hardly express himself in English?

    Yet the guy won the race. Being semi-literate in another
    language is better than being completely illiterate.
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Mar 12, 2007
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  10. Jawohl.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 12, 2007
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  11. xxchriskingxx

    dg Guest

    Sir;.... Gene C, is a regula puttnucker plant.......
    ..
     
    dg, Mar 12, 2007
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  12. Perhaps Gene will experience his own karma by needing help in a
    foreign country where he doesn't speak the language.

    I paused to reload my camera in Florence once. When I looked up, the
    tour guide had taken the group I was with off in an unknown direction.

    I know about 10 words of Italian, and "spaghetti", "pizza" and
    "lasagna" wouldn't cut it.

    I did know that they were headed for the "Piazza di Santa Croce", so I
    kept saying "Piazza di Santa Croce" to Italians on the street and
    looking helpless, so they pointed me in the right direction.

    Nobody threw rocks at me, or told me that I was an idiot for not
    speaking perfect Italian.

    Or, if they thought badly of me, they didn't indicate it.
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Mar 13, 2007
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  13. xxchriskingxx

    Wudsracer Guest


    Is this the Yamaha Big Bear 400cc 4-stroke 4-wheeler?

    It, like most 4-strokes, carries oil in the ignition.

    I will proceed on that assumption.
    Check and clean every connection between your wiring harness and the
    coil, stator, and switch cluster.
    After polishing the connectors, I use di-electric grease on them when
    I plug the wires back together. It will enhance and protect the
    connection of the wires.

    While the switch cluster wires are disconnected from the wiring
    harness, check the switches for proper working order, using a
    continuity tester.

    Look for a frayed place in the insulation of the wires of the wiring
    harness.

    You should also remove the coil and clean both it's mounting surface
    and the frame, at the place where the coil mounts to it.

    Check the spark plug wire and cap. The spark plug wire will often
    corrode at the place where the spike from the spark plug cap screws
    into the wire.
    If the wire looks corroded at that place, just cut off 1/4" (5mm or
    so) of the spark plug wire, and screw the cleaned spark plug cap spike
    back onto the "now fresh looking" spark plug wire.

    Some models will allow one to unscrew the spark plug wire from the
    cdi and do the same maintenance at that place.

    One more thing: If your bike quits recharging the battery, the
    first thing to check (after the connections of the wires to the
    battery) should be the connection of the ground wire to the engine or
    frame. This is the most prevalent cause of a charging problem on
    atv's and m/c.

    Good wrenching and luck to you!


    Wudsracer/Jim Cook
    Smackover Racing
    '06 Gas Gas DE300
    '82 Husqvarna XC250
    Team LAGNAF
     
    Wudsracer, Mar 13, 2007
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    fweddybear Guest

    Not sure if the bike has a cut off switch, but if it does, you might
    want to check that...just a thought

    Fwed
     
    fweddybear, Mar 14, 2007
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  15. xxchriskingxx

    Wudsracer Guest

    Anyone can make typoos. <VBG>

    I neglected something in my post.
    Down below, it should have read, "Check and clean every connection
    between your wiring harness and the cdi (engine control module, or
    "black box"), coil, stator, and switch cluster."

    Jim


    Wudsracer/Jim Cook
    Smackover Racing
    '06 Gas Gas DE300
    '82 Husqvarna XC250
    Team LAGNAF
     
    Wudsracer, Mar 14, 2007
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  16. It *Whaaa-aat*?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 14, 2007
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  17. Can you say "sprag clutch"? It needs oil, as does the needle bearing
    in the starter idler gear.

    This machine is a Yamaha ATV called YFM400 Big Bear. it comes in 2WD
    and 4WD models.

    The alternator stator and rotor run in an oil bath, and so does the
    ignition pickup coil. So the presence of oil inside the stator cover
    is normal.

    The engine also has a recoil starter.
     
    Potage St. Germaine, Mar 14, 2007
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    Mark Olson Guest

    Mark Olson, Mar 14, 2007
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  19. xxchriskingxx

    Wudsracer Guest


    Pardon me. I should have said "Like most of the 4-stroke engines in
    dirtbikes and quads.", which is really all that I know about.

    I keep reading all the rest of ya'lls stuff to learn more about
    street bikes. (especially Mark and John's posts.)

    And, I found two different varieties of B-12. I had trouble figuring
    out which I needed for my old '81 XV920RH project, so I got both.
    Any help available with that difference?

    TIA



    Wudsracer/Jim Cook
    Smackover Racing
    '06 Gas Gas DE300
    '82 Husqvarna XC250
    Team LAGNAF
     
    Wudsracer, Mar 14, 2007
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    John Johnson Guest


    Pardon me. I should have said "Like most of the 4-stroke engines in
    dirtbikes and quads.", which is really all that I know about.

    I keep reading all the rest of ya'lls stuff to learn more about
    street bikes. (especially Mark and John's posts.)

    And, I found two different varieties of B-12. I had trouble figuring
    out which I needed for my old '81 XV920RH project, so I got both.
    Any help available with that difference?

    TIA[/QUOTE]

    Try looking up the MSDS on each version (perhaps listed by part number?)
    The MSDS must be made available to you if you request it, and it will
    detail the contents, at least to the extent that you can determine
    whether the different versions have different properties.

    --
    Later,
    John



    'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk.
     
    John Johnson, Mar 15, 2007
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