New bike...

Less weight over the rear wheels, less traction, poorer handling.

 

My V8 Sedan ploughs its way through corners as it is, less weight over the
rear and it would be a real pig.

Boxer

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 03 Nov 2007 09:30:56 GMT

So sit further back!

Oh. Car. Never mind. Of course it's a pig.

Zebee
- two wheels good. Four wheels OK if Italian.

 

Less weight over the rear wheels, more sliding, more fun

Totally aside from tthe people who buy one because it's faster than the
sedan and cheaper are mostly only interested in going in a straight line.

It ain't me (but then nor is a V8 Monaro), I'd buy a Lotus Elise
instead. <shrug> Different people like different things. Some people buy
bikes which weigh over 300Kg, have no ground clearance, no brakes and
bugger all horsepower. Weird.

JL

 

Well you're likely to be getting tapped on the shoulder by the blue gang
, but if it's plough understeering then making it easier to light up the
back should help not hinder...get that back end drifting !!

I'd actually heard the newer Crappydore V8's were a lot better handlers
than in days of yore - do you have the statesman or something ? Might
want to get the SS I think its called ? The luxobarge is going to have
squidgy suspension because no one is expecting them to be pushed hard -
trade it on the HSV version of the statesman if you want it to be luxury
and handle

JL
(noting the above paragraph purely based on media reports and anecodotal
evidence, the last Holden V8 I drove was 10 years ago)

 

Me too™.

Some even take 'em where light sports bikes fear to tread. Funny, eh?

 

Isn't there a fair bit of tax dodging involved with these sports utes?

Aren't they easier to get away with than the equivalent normal car?

Aye, it is, indeed, a funny old world.

Still, if it makes them happy, good luck to them.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 04 Nov 2007 09:25:32 +1100

Hey! That's my loopframe Guzzi you are dissing!

(OK, 260kg, and it has more ground clearance now the centre stand has
been performance modified, and the drum brakes were the last word in
performance a couple of years before it came out, however....)

But then I'm known to be weird.

Zebee

 

<startled look> You mean it's legal to ride a road bike on the dirt ?? ;-)


JL

 

According to Theo apparently so. I hadn't thought of it before but yeah
makes sense within our weirdarse tax laws

;-) My point precisely; for both 4 and 2 wheels

JL

 

Hell, why not? I ride my dirt bike on the road...

 

Bugger ! They allow that too ?? Next thing you'll tell me they let
people drive 4wds in the city !!

The laws of nature just don't get any respect any more.

JL

 

Normal company car, you pay FBT at a percentage of the cost price depending
on how many kms you do. Company ute, no FBT. with an average car costing
$40K, paying $4400 per annum to the Govmint is no joke, and you have to do
more than 25K kms to get that figure. Less kms will attract a higher
percentage. In the fourth year of ownership they will allow you to
depreciate the cost price by 30%. We have 7 sedans and 4 utes. We pay the
govmint $42K per annum for the privilige of driving them home.

Theo