[QUOTE="Pete M"] In I wouldn't chip a Cupra R beyond about 240 bhp.[/QUOTE] Hehe wimp ;-) I'm not sure I can have a VX220 now (in either Turbo or NA form), as my back is largely disagreeable - and I'm pretty sure after the novelty had worn off the lack of amenities would start to bug me - so I'm back to looking at the hot hatches. I think I fear the owning of a 147 GTA too much (and actually the insurance is a load more than I thought it was), so I reckon we're down to Civic Type-R, or Leon Cupra R... The Civic is cheaper, and I know I enjoy driving them, but I have a hospital appointment in Leeds on Friday, so whilst I'm out there anyway I've found a Cupra R to test, so we'll see on that... I seem to recall you once saying you were a big fan of the Leon Pete? [QUOTE] As for the Saab being the same as the Vectra, that's like saying a Monaro VXR handles the same as a 2.0 Omega estate. ie utter bollocks. [/QUOTE] Heh, I know fuck all about platform sharing, I just knew they shared the 2.8 turbo engine.