[QUOTE="Ace"] I was reminded on my ride in this morning of just how comfortable my new leathers are and how much more relaxed they make me on the bike. Compared with _anything_ else, including at least three other pairs of leather trousers and numerous jackets I've had over the years they're streets ahead.[/QUOTE] I'm much more comfortable in jeans, timberlands, and my HG fabric jacket. Exactly what I chose to wear for a ride from Basel to London, if you remember. [QUOTE] If they're not comfortable when riding your bike then there's something wrong. Especially in a MTM set, riding comfort is probably the main reason for getting them. Maybe you've just never used them enough to break them in properly.[/QUOTE] They didn't need breaking in. They're fine when they're on the bike, apart from the fact that I don't really like the feeling of them. It's when I'm *off* the bike, that's the problem.