New Rider

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Big Dov, Jan 14, 2006.

  1. Big Dov

    Catman Guest

    Then you might want to calm down a bit ;)

    Nah, I know what you mean, but a sense of perspective is on order I feel. I
    remember when SWMBO took her LHD Sprint out first time, and the biker
    behind us at a round about started getting hooty on on his horn. I just
    thought he was a fuckwit cos she wasn't stationary for more than about 5
    seconds.
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    Catman, Jan 14, 2006
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  2. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Catman
    Oh I'd be shouty in quite a calm manner.
    Five seconds? I'd escalate from "shouty" to "ramming stations".

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jan 14, 2006
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    Catman Guest

    LOL some more

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    Catman, Jan 14, 2006
    #23
  4. <snip>

    Tune in next week, folks, when, in the second programme of our series of
    Advice From Unlikely Corners, BGN counsels Mick Jagger on pick-up
    tips.... ;-))
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 15, 2006
    #24
  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Halla
    Ooh! Ooh! I know this one.

    "And the bishop said 'Why the long face?'", right?

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jan 15, 2006
    #25
  6. Big Dov

    BGN Guest

    <snip>

    Tune in next week, folks, when, in the second programme of our series of
    Advice From Unlikely Corners, BGN counsels Mick Jagger on pick-up
    tips.... ;-))[/QUOTE]

    "Is there anything else I can assist you with today?"
     
    BGN, Jan 15, 2006
    #26
  7. Big Dov

    BGN Guest

    Try going down a gear at a time (avoid block changes) and don't change
    down when you're at higher revs unless you sync the revs up first. If
    your engine is revving at 8,000rpm don't just pull in clutch, drop
    down a gear, release clutch as the engine will be at idle speed until
    it gets a bit of a shock as it has to be pulled to 11 or 12k. If you
    have to change down at higher revs for some reason then pull in the
    clutch, drop down a gear, OPEN THROTTLE to about 11 or 12k and let the
    clutch bite as it gets there.

    Get gears speed and braking sorted before you enter the corner

    With regards to using your front brake it's your *best* brake and the
    one you use the most and the one you stop with. The rear brake will
    help you slow down, hold the bike still and will give you a bit more
    stability when doing manouveres. While you should avoid having to use
    the front brake on a bend sometimes you do have to use it.

    If you're scared that you'll lock the front wheel up (like I used to
    be) then you just don't know how much can use it. Don't snatch at the
    front brake, squeeze it so the shocks can do their stuff and the
    weight can moved to the front tyre. The best advice I can give you is
    to visit Google Groups and search for "Bastard Bear" "Coke Can."
     
    BGN, Jan 15, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    Especially when switching to reserve.


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    Krusty, Jan 15, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    I don't disagree with your *technical* point about matching engine speed
    to the likely engine speed demand when changing down through the
    gearbox.

    However I'm completely confused about the application of this for a
    novice. I could see why racers could want to keep the revs up on a bike
    with a narrow power-band but someone on a public road changing down at
    8k? No.
    Eeeek! This is a sure fire way to crash (panic braking in corners). If
    you *really* need to lose speed then get the bike *UPRIGHT* before you
    try to brake. When you brake, the weight is transferred forwards,
    changing the steering geometry, pushing weight onto the front wheel etc.
    etc. etc. which at this time of year can easily result in losing
    traction and crashing.

    If the last few years have taught me a few things about riding it's the
    experience to realise that when you think you've over-cooked a corner
    braking is the *last* thing to do.
    IME with modern tyres it's fucking hard to lock front wheels up without
    absolutely stupid levels of pressure on the brake lever.
     
    deadmail, Jan 15, 2006
    #29
  10. Cnut.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 15, 2006
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    Eiron Guest

    If the engine is revving at 8000 while you're slowing down for a corner,
    you don't want to change down a gear. The OP wants advice on road riding,
    not racing FFS.
     
    Eiron, Jan 15, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    Nowt wrong with counting. Comes in handy when riding an unfamiliar
    bike or one with little torque. "Count 'em up, count 'em down" works
    for me when I'm not in the groove.

    Keep at it, get some practice in and don't worry about the rest of the
    road users unless they're trying to kill you. It all gets easier when
    you're used to it - especially dodging the Volvo drivers that *are*
    out to kill you.

    Exercising your googling muscles, finding and reading the uk.r.m. FAQ
    prolly wouldn't hurt either.
     
    Pip, Jan 15, 2006
    #32
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    Big Dave Guest

    Just as it should be!

    Just as it should be!

    Nick, He's an RTB now! FTW!
    (Oh, and will you be gentle with him please?)

    Dave
     
    Big Dave, Jan 15, 2006
    #33
  14. Big Dov

    Big Dave Guest

    <sees this thread>
    <sees who posts first reply>
    <opens popcorn><you want some Robbo?>

    Dave
     
    Big Dave, Jan 15, 2006
    #34
  15. Big Dov

    Big Dave Guest

    Nick.
    Behave!
    You hardly know[1] him yet.

    [1] I mean Socially not Biblically.

    Dave
     
    Big Dave, Jan 15, 2006
    #35
  16. Big Dov

    Big Dave Guest

    I don't believe this,
    A newbie has started a thread and nobody has bitched about his sig sep yet.
    Is Bear losing it?
     
    Big Dave, Jan 15, 2006
    #36
  17. Big Dov

    Pip Guest

    You're sniggering at your own broken sig sep? You don't get better,
    you know.
     
    Pip, Jan 15, 2006
    #37
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    This is a motorbike newsgroup and you're not supposed to say things
    like that. If he's on a bike then he's in the right.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 15, 2006
    #38
  19. Big Dov

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    FFS, what bike is it that you think you're going to lock the front
    wheel up on?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 15, 2006
    #39
  20. Big Dov

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Ignore this bit. They're very last year.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 15, 2006
    #40
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