Newbie growing wiser - XR250 what to look for

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by griffys, Jul 30, 2005.

  1. griffys

    griffys Guest

    Many thanks to helpful responses from last post.

    Just got my Open bike license - today (at 35yo!), and looking to get
    into some dirt bike riding, want a bike that can be registered. Dont
    know a lot about what to look for in a second hand bike - so would
    appreciate some pointers. Pretty much decided on a Honda XR250 - seems
    to be a good reliable all rounder, well praised from all i talk too

    Looking at spending around $4000, which from What i have seen so far-
    buys be a 2000 to a 2003 Model with around 4000 to 7000km. To me that
    doesnt seem like a lot of mileage - what should I be looking out for
    when looking at these bikes?

    Cheers

    Newbie Zane
     
    griffys, Jul 30, 2005
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. griffys

    John Littler Guest

    Didn't you already ask the same question last week ?

    Anyway, given an XR is $8K new according to the Honda website, 4K sounds
    reasonably cheap for a couple of year old one. XR250R or L btw ?

    Either way, it's a 4stroke 250 single so I can't see why it would be
    problematic after that few a Km's, should be fine. Look for obvious
    leaks or damage, assuming it's not been badly pranged I can't see why
    you'd have any trouble with a low K one.

    Note, I've never owned one though, take with a grain of salt.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jul 30, 2005
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. griffys

    IK Guest

    With good reason. Good trailbikes, those things.
    1 dirt km is equivalent to about 8 street km. There's a reason they
    nosedive in value the way they do.

    - what should I be looking out for
    Signs of neglect and abuse or overly hard use... the latter isn't too
    likely as few people race them any more. The motors, being air-cooled
    singes, make noise like World War 3 as a matter of course, but any
    overly loud clatters, knocks or rattles could be a bad sign.

    Ride a few, get a feel of what the gearbox action feels like (notchy if
    you're cruising, very slick if you're on the gas) and how hard the motor
    pulls. If you get one that feels below average, skip it.

    Since riding dirt involves a lot of clutch-slipping, pay attention that
    the clutch doesn't slip on the gas when fully engaged (sign of worn
    friction plates-or a misadjusted cable-if it does) and that it doesn't
    have a narrow takeup (possible warped steels.)

    Dirt brakes always cause white knuckles in people used to streetbike
    brakes, but you're coming into this new, so you shouldn't have that
    problem... the lever shouldn't come back to the bar, but it should be
    squishy; early takeup, then heaps of travel to modulate the actual
    braking power.

    If you can help it, don't get one with dings in the headers or the
    engine cradle tubes, or with chunks of engine cooling fin missing. Dirt
    bikes fall over, and sometimes, they land on hard stuff like rocks, logs
    and other dirtbikes.
     
    IK, Jul 30, 2005
    #3
  4. griffys

    griffys Guest

    IK,

    Great thanks for the detailed tips! Excellant. What are your thoughts
    on buying from a dealer over private?

    Z
     
    griffys, Jul 30, 2005
    #4
  5. griffys

    IK Guest

    Buy private. No two ways about it, not least because a lot of dirtbikes
    get sold not because the skint owner needs the money, but because the
    owner's either too busy to ride much, realised bikes aren't as much as
    they seemed, or bored with bikes and needs the room in the garage for a
    wakeboard or a jet-ski or some shit.
     
    IK, Jul 31, 2005
    #5
  6. griffys

    J5 Guest

    as per IK

    most important is buy on condition rather than what is on the speedo

    check the brake disks closely for wear dirt bikes chew up disks

    quiz the owner about maintenence , oils etc

    check the air filter and air filter box , 3 x deusz clips pull off the side
    panel

    check the oil that it has some and is clean

    chain and sprockets

    dents scratches etx

    www.ballards.cc for all thinsg XR and lots of other bits and pieces
    ask em to send you a cattledog
     
    J5, Jul 31, 2005
    #6
  7. griffys

    griffys Guest

    Anyone know rough idea what the compression should be on a XR250?
     
    griffys, Aug 2, 2005
    #7
  8. griffys

    IK Guest

    On kickstart bikes, that's easy; get it near TDC, then try to kick it
    over without using decomp. If it doesn't put up a bit of a fight,
    there_could_be a problem.

    If a bike's suffering from low compression, it's going to feel sick to
    ride. It's much easier to just gas the thing up through a few gears than
    to faff around with a compression gauge and what will you.

    Have you ridden any XR's yet?
     
    IK, Aug 4, 2005
    #8
  9. griffys

    Zebu Guest

    Ik,

    Ridden 2 so far, one 2003 model that was ridden by a 14yo, that was
    totally thrashed - which was a good excersie in what to look for. The
    other is my cousins 2002, well maintained machine, but that was over
    12months back (in Longreach).

    How to i know if the stroke is at TDC?
     
    Zebu, Aug 4, 2005
    #9
  10. griffys

    J5 Guest

    the lever should get hard to kick

    one thing though is that XR's have an auto decomp system, most have been
    disconnected though
     
    J5, Aug 4, 2005
    #10
  11. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 4 Aug 2005 17:53:24 +1000

    Horrible idea auto-decomp. especially on a 250. No way to know when to
    kick just keep trying and hope....

    Zebee
    - who has two big singles and neither has a decompression lever. Are
    dirt bikers supposed to be wimpier than middleaged ladies then?
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 4, 2005
    #11
  12. griffys

    Zebu Guest

    Lads,

    I purchased my first bike today, 2000 Xr250, 6000km,s. New tyres, New
    brakes and Rotars, Engine has just had New Rings, valves done,Cam
    chain etc (and reciepts for work) Guy also thru in a spare set of
    plastics (to use while I get the hang of it) The bloke guarantees a
    safety certificate - no matter where i get it done. Only fault I could
    find on the bike is the stand has snapped off at some point and been
    welded back on (professionally)- which I gather is common (from
    standing on the bike and kick starting with stand down). I rode three
    different bikes today, including a R1 and a 2003 XRL, this bike was by
    far the best ride. And I though great Value - it looks nice to!

    Thansk for all your help.

    Now for soem safety gear - what ya reckon for armour plastic over the
    top variety or softer under the top sort? I reckon the ones you where
    under your top would get hot?

    Zebu
     
    Zebu, Aug 5, 2005
    #12
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.