Newbie seeks first bike

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by John Allen, Apr 16, 2004.

  1. John Allen

    John Allen Guest

    Hello,

    I have been lurking in this newsgroup for a while now, and found it jolly
    entertaining and informative... and as of 1145 yesterday morning I find
    myself in possession of a full unrestricted bike licence.

    I now need to go and spend some money on a bike. I need to ride the 40 miles
    each way to work , and varying times of day, mostly on dual carriageway but
    with the last 6 miles consisting of congested London streets.

    I have been thinking of something along the lines of a new SV650S, or a
    Bandit S, or a CBF600S or even a Deauville, and I can spend up to £4000-5000
    ish. I would appreciate any thoughts on what bike I should buy. I don't want
    anything too flashy as I have to use it almost everyday, winter and summer,
    and I also have to insure the bloody thing.

    Thanks in advance,

    John

    P.S. Also If anyone out there is looking into DAS training in the North
    Kent/Essex/ East London area I can thoroughly recommend
    www.probiketraining.com
     
    John Allen, Apr 16, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    Save the big wedge for the next bike, would be my instinctive
    response. You passed today, now the learning starts. If you are
    venturing into London on a daily basis, the odds are stacked against a
    newbie. The bike will take punishment or be nicked ...

    IIWY, I'd go for a used Bandit 600S. It'll do all you want it to do
    and have a bit of fun at weekends too - and there's plenty of them,
    they're strong and capable. Pick one that's a couple of years old
    with FSH and away you go. Let somebody else carry the depreciation of
    a new bike for you, IYSWIM.

    Oh, and welcome to the dark side.

    |;-)|
     
    Pip, Apr 16, 2004
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    Spete Guest

    Spete, Apr 16, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    SV, no question. But try 'em all out first.
     
    Ben, Apr 16, 2004
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    WavyDavy Guest

    Gamma5, YKIMS..... :)

    Or a 4 yo CBR6

    Or a CB500S

    Depends what else you want to do apart from commute. If the answer's
    "nothing" then the dullville sounds fine, but I'd be tempted to get a £3k
    2/hand sports 600 like a CBR and just have fun...

    Dave
     
    WavyDavy, Apr 16, 2004
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    Molly Guest

    Listen to Pip, he's right.
     
    Molly, Apr 16, 2004
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    Ferger Guest

    John Allen secured a place in history by writing:
    Get a cheap (ie ~3 year old) mid-range non-sports bike - Fazer, Hornet, CB
    500, Bandit etc. You will learn a lot more wringing the nuts of one of
    these than buying anything quicker or more focussed, you won't cry as much
    when you bin/drop it (you will) and it's less likely to get nicked (hence
    cheaper to insure). In your first licence year you just won't appreciate
    anything better because you'll be too terrified to get anywhere near the
    limits of more serious kit. This is entirely normal, says nothing about
    your ability as a rider and choosing something sane doesn't expose you to
    the (widely held, and certainly by me) perception that a lot of sports-bike
    riders passed their test yesterday and have wasted a lot of money on
    something that might bite them through inexperience.

    You'll have a blast, and when you start feeling you want something more you
    can trade up. You may well not feel the need. Personally, I've ridden all
    of them and I'd go for the Fazer, although the Hondas (and particularly the
    CB) are likely to survive winter riding better - but there's not a lot to
    separate them and a test-ride will help, if difficult (dealers are not keen
    on licences that started yesterday :-( )
     
    Ferger, Apr 16, 2004
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    Aga Guest

    Passed a few weeks ago myself and picked up a SV which will be used for
    commuting and fun, and haven't regretted it for a second. Obviously depends
    on what you're after though. The forums on this site are dedicated to the
    SV so you may get a feel for whether it's the bike for you or not ....

    http://www.sv650.org

    Good Luck with whatever you go for!
     
    Aga, Apr 16, 2004
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    jsp Guest

    My last bike was a Bandit S and I would thoroughly recommend one. For
    the riding you are doing they are comfortable and perfectly capable.
    They can be a hoot at the weekend too.

    The SV is also an excellent bike, although I've not ridden the faired one.

    Both my bikes went through the winter and with regular rinsing down in
    the winter have coped well.

    Get a scottoiler.

    And if you are commuting 40 miles through the winter, make sure you get
    some decent kit.


    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Apr 16, 2004
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    Zymurgy Guest

    Hello delurker.
    DO NOT BUY A DEAUVILLE
    Cheap as poss. Like wot Pip said. You *will* drop it in the 1st year
    of ownership, 'specially in London.

    You don't want to drop anything nice ;-)

    ER5, Hornet or CB500 ? all decent commuters. You might find the B6 a
    bit top heavy, but YMMV.

    Cheers

    Paul.
     
    Zymurgy, Apr 17, 2004
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    Eatmorepies Guest

    You could do worse than my 1999 Kawasakii ER5. Green with 9800 miles from
    new. I taxed it last week and MOTed it today, it's green and in Mid Wales.
    You can blast about (compared with a learner bike) on it for the next few
    months, run it through the winter and probably only drop about £300 on it
    before buying something more exciting next spring. I want more than £1449
    for it.

    John
     
    Eatmorepies, Apr 17, 2004
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  12. In uk.rec.motorcycles, John Allen said:
    Bandit, but I'd go for a "previously enjoyed" model. The learning curve
    will be steep in London but there's no better training ground IMHO.
    No problem.

    Enjoy.
     
    Whinging Courier, Apr 17, 2004
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