Next bike?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by jgh, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. jgh

    Lozzo Guest

    I lowered mine, cos I only have a 28 inch inside leg. It's easy to
    manage now.
    ZZR600 would appear to be a great choice, I really rate them and don't
    doubt that LN will have a good time with one. The best thing about the
    ZZR600 engine is it fits straight into the ZXR400 chassis, so if she
    manages to destroy the chassis she can still make use of the motor :)

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Oct 26, 2010
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  2. Really?? There's the makings of a superb special there. Do you know
    anyone who's ever built one?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 26, 2010
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    Switters Guest

    Who the hells keeps a lawnmower in the garage. That's what sheds are for.
     
    Switters, Oct 26, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    <waves>

    Not that the plastic Bosch Rotak would survive if a boxer engine decide to
    have a rest on it. Save scratching the cylinder heads, mind.
     
    wessie, Oct 26, 2010
    #64
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    SIRPip Guest

    Well, exactly. Garages are for bikes and tools and assorted mechanical
    hardware.

    I've got the little petrol mower in the greenhouse, which is where the
    gardening tools live, when I can get to them past the tomatoes. The
    big petrol mower is parked in the timber store in the garden, the nasty
    little electric mower is under all sorts of crap in the little shed.

    Proper sheds are for things like woodworking gear, mind. and bags of
    Blue Circle (half used, solidified but an adequate seat) old PPs (half
    used, solidified, but an adequate weapon in an emergency) and empty BA
    bottles.
     
    SIRPip, Oct 26, 2010
    #65
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    nicknoxx Guest

    Quite. I'm building one now:-
    http://www.zen202900.zen.co.uk/pics/25102010122.jpg
     
    nicknoxx, Oct 26, 2010
    #66
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    SIRPip Guest

    SIRPip, Oct 26, 2010
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    Lozzo Guest

    Nope, but I measured in detail two engines side by side in the breaking
    bay where I used to work. It looks like they share the same crankcase
    castings plus the 600 engine is no taller and also shares the same
    exhaust port dimensions in relation to the rest of the 400 motor. In
    short, you can chuck a ZZR600 lump straight in the ZXR chassis and use
    the 400 header pipes. Kawasaki did build a ZZR400 using the 600 chassis
    which, IIRC, uses the same engine as the ZXR400s, so retro-fitting a
    600 engine into a ZXR400 should be easily possible.

    If I could find a blown up but otherwise decent condition ZXR400L8 or 9
    I'd be tempted to give it a go cos I know where there are two complete
    ZZR600 engines - one from a D, the other from an E. I just know it can
    be done.

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Oct 26, 2010
    #68
  9. Cor.

    <Boggle>

    That would be a fantasic bike. As long as the carbs fit in the chassis
    as well.... If the bore centres are the same - which I doubt, but they
    mght be - then the stock airbox could be used, too.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Oct 26, 2010
    #69
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    Lozzo Guest

    It looks like the carbs should fit. The head appears to be the same
    casting, in the same way the Bandit 600 engine can be straight swopped
    for an early GSXR750 or GSX750F engine because they share the same
    castings.

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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Oct 26, 2010
    #70
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    I always wanteda Yamaha FZ600, because it was my sort of special: a
    600cc engine (albeit not a particularly powerful nor modern one)
    shoehorned into a 400's chassis.

    <Thinks>

    Fancy making a joint project of it?
     
    TOG@Toil, Oct 27, 2010
    #71
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    ogden Guest

    15 years or so ago, in Maidstone, I saw a special that was, iirc, made
    from a Fireblade engine in an FZR400 frame with a VFR400 swingarm and a
    custom under-seat exhaust that was remarkably prescient of the later MV
    Augusta.

    It was rather special. But pointless - when a Fireblade didn't weigh
    that much more than a 400 to start with, and most of the difference was
    the engine.
     
    ogden, Oct 27, 2010
    #72
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    Krusty Guest

    <swims on by>
     
    Krusty, Oct 27, 2010
    #73
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    Simon Wilson Guest

    Based on the golf floorpan.
     
    Simon Wilson, Oct 27, 2010
    #74
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    Nige Guest

    Penny farthing?
     
    Nige, Oct 27, 2010
    #75
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    Lady Nina Guest

    No, the older one. Come to BOSM and I'll see what yours is like.
    Good to know, I will add a divvy to the list when I go sit on things.
    That's what broke my leg. It came up too quick and kept going.
    It certainly looks a possibility.
    Doesn't have any fairing, a bit weighty at 202kg but nice idea
    actually. Just makes me want a Ducati (it looks like a monster) and
    I'm not allowed those until I can look after them properly.
     
    Lady Nina, Oct 27, 2010
    #76
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    Krusty Guest

    So get a Raptor 650 then. Looks like a Monster but with an SV engine &
    electrics, & feels much lighter than an SV to manhandle around.
     
    Krusty, Oct 27, 2010
    #77
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    Chris Dugan Guest

    OK, if I make it there next year... just too many things going on this
    year and I found out about it too late.
    Ah, my flatmate is considering a Monster at the moment... he wants to
    'upgrade' from his ZRX1200 (if that is the correct term?) :) to an 1100.
    He keeps on offering me a go on it but I wouldn't trust myself on a bike
    that heavy at the moment. I might just take him up on the offer if and
    when he gets the Monster... at least it'll be a lot lighter than his
    current bike, I think it's 230Kg dry or something stupid like that!
     
    Chris Dugan, Oct 27, 2010
    #78
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    Lozzo Guest

    TOG@Toil wrote:

    A coiuple of my mates owned them and I would often borrow either for a
    good thrashing round the back lanes where I was dragged up. Fantastic
    bikes and I annihilated my timed record from Cranfield to Wootton[1] on
    one, then broke it again a year later on my VF400 by 30 seconds.
    Time amd money say no. I have enough on my plate right now.

    [1] About 6 miles of the twistiest roads around here, with virtually no
    view through any of the corners.



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    Lozzo
    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Oct 27, 2010
    #79
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    Thomas Guest

    hmmm. Does that mean:
    a.) you keep it nice and shiny clean?
    b.) You change the oil regularly?
    c.) You take it over the ton and scrape pegs every time you ride it?
     
    Thomas, Oct 28, 2010
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