Nice traffic light design

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by nicknoxx, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. nicknoxx

    Ben Guest

    And when it's amber, how do you know if it's going to go green or red
    if you've just arrived?
     
    Ben, Nov 20, 2010
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  2. nicknoxx

    Thomas Guest

    There are very few intelligent traffic lights, and those tend to go
    bad after a few months. One of my pet peeves - the amount of time
    wasted sitting at vacant stop lights, where there is no cross traffic
    in sight. Worldwide, it's an enormous amount of wasted time and
    petrol, and far too much pollution generated by vehicles idling for no
    reason. Prediction - In a generation, stop lights will be intelligent
    enough to sense surrounding traffic and will move vehicles far more
    efficiently.
     
    Thomas, Nov 20, 2010
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  3. nicknoxx

    Thomas Guest

    Check under your saddle. I think there's a burr there. Or perhaps you
    just need to get laid.

    I've done my time in engineering, solving other problems. I have no
    desire (or need,) to put up with bureaucrats and other idiots to solve
    more problems that anyone with half a brain can spot. The problems
    WILL be solved, I'm certain of that. I'm just impatient, knowing the
    future will be better. Call it whining if you like, but the squeaky
    wheel, etc. There are dedicated phone numbers in my area to complain
    about malfunctioning lights. They _want_ people to whine.

    Intelligence. Traffic lights have progressed from set times in all
    directions to impedance driven controls, that can tell how many cars
    are waiting for a turn signal. There are also little sensors on top of
    the light poles that can be triggered by emergency vehicles to turn
    all directions red. There are urban plans that control a series of
    lights to keep traffic moving smoothly, but if there is very little
    traffic, those same lights keep the same pattern. In some cases, that
    means 120 seconds waiting for the light to change. It isn't
    malfunctioning, it is an "intelligent" design, but the technology
    isn't able to see how little traffic there is. The light closest to my
    home has two patterns. During the day, it is set for the boulevard to
    stay green for 120 seconds, while the cross street is green only as
    long as the impedance wire is tripped (often 3 vehicles or less,
    meaning it goes yellow far too quickly.) Late at night, the signal
    switches almost immediately when the cross street wires are tripped.
    It is semi-intelligent, but it could be so much better during the
    day.
    I have never seen a system that can accurately tell individual cars
    "you may go now," but that day will come.
     
    Thomas, Nov 20, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    UK Lights never go green to amber, so I imagine they won't implement
    that pattern.
     
    ginge, Nov 20, 2010
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    We'll get back to you with a quote, Sir.
     
    Pip Luscher, Nov 20, 2010
    #25
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    Thomas Guest

    /s/impedance/inductance/ (Call it a senior moment.)
    The wire loops underground that detect the presence of vehicles and
    send signals to the control box.
    I don't know how traffic lights are controlled in your area, but it's
    how they are controlled in most places here. If it isn't an induction
    loop, it's a fixed time interval.

    My point is that current systems don't work well on day 1 and it's a
    design issue, not quality of hardware. Municipalities buy systems from
    companies like GTT.
    http://www.gtt.com/
    They do cost/benefit analyses (& there's always politics,) so
    "cheapest" isn't always a relevant issue when considering contracts.
    I'm not sure where you get the idea I don't like paying taxes. I don't
    ever remember claiming that. I certainly do hate the inevitable
    inefficiency and waste of tax dollars, but I know we need government
    services and taxes are how we pay for them.
     
    Thomas, Nov 20, 2010
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    ogden Guest

    Red is a warning. Amber is a challenge.
     
    ogden, Nov 21, 2010
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    Beav Guest

    Exactly like they've been doing in Sweden for the last **** knows how many
    years.

    I believe it's called "Green Waving" by our government and it was only
    recently that they admitted (in a roundabout way) that it's not implemented
    countrywide - if at all - because it reduces the amount of petrol tax they
    can grab.

    Of course like everything else, that information could've been passed on to
    me by a malicious ****, so wibble-flip.
     
    Beav, Nov 21, 2010
    #28
  9. nicknoxx

    Beav Guest

    Oh come on, behave yourself. It's ALWAYS going to go to red innit.
     
    Beav, Nov 21, 2010
    #29
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