No CE approved gloves - RIDE article

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by abd08, Aug 6, 2006.

  1. abd08

    porl Guest

    Well I think you're trying to confuse the matter in semantics, which is
    I guess an acceptable "out" in this forum. But let's do it your way for
    a minute.
    How would Ace himself (that being you, let's be clear) tell the
    difference in protective qualities between the two types of glove?
    Let's assume that you've put aside your lezzer fair attitude on safety
    and are picking out some gloves for a loved one, or even someone other
    than you. How would you do it?
     
    porl, Aug 9, 2006
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  2. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    A friend of mine works in an art gallery in London. I once asked him
    what was the point behind all these piles of bricks and such like being
    exhibited as modern art.
    "Dave", he said, "there's a saying 'in the trade' : There's a lot less
    to it than meets the eye".
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  3. <Devils advocate>

    You could try religion..

    </DA>

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Aug 9, 2006
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  4. abd08

    Ace Guest

    Yes, I know that's the question you meant to ask, and one to which
    I've given an answer elsewhere, basically agreeing that it would be
    difficult.

    But in some cases it is possible, like the leathers I bought last
    year, where I felt reasonable able to judge the quality and thickness
    of the leather, the stitching and the overal workmanship based on my
    previous experience of leather kit over the previous 25 years.

    The armour is not CE approved, but is marvelously thick and
    shock-absorbent, as demonstrated in the shop by simply falling
    straight down onto my knees without so much as a hint of pain. It's
    also fixed and in exactly the right place for me, and the fit is
    absolutely just right, plus there's additional protection on the hips,
    kidneys and shins, all of which are often not the case with
    CE-approved stuff.
    As in the above example, where I, as an experienced buyer, was able to
    get something which I have no doubt is better than any of the other
    leathers, CE-approved or not, that I tried on at the time, having
    looked in about ten different shops in the area. Had I limited myself
    to CE-approved kit I'd definitely have got something which would not
    have been so good (for me).

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    Ace, Aug 9, 2006
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  5. abd08

    porl Guest

    TLDR
     
    porl, Aug 9, 2006
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  6. abd08

    Ace Guest

    It doesn't make any difference - it's all shite.

    <I'm trying, OK?>
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    Ace, Aug 9, 2006
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  7. Sure they weren't just getting some building work done?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 9, 2006
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  8. abd08

    Ace Guest

    Look, whether someone else has arbitrarily limited 'Modern Art' to
    some past era is irrelevant. We were talking about modern art, not
    Modern Art.
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    Ace, Aug 9, 2006
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  9. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    Within the last (ahem) years, but a bit less than 60.
    We were talking about the pile of bricks in which ever gallery it was
    and the "house filled with concrete" kind of stuff. It seemed that in
    the late 80s and early 90s a lot of people were taking the piss a bit
    with "installation" type things.
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  10. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    "The Scream". I like that.
    Wasn't it nicked a year or three back? Have they found it again yet?
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  11. abd08

    ogden Guest

    There is no "it", he reproduced it several times, with examples hanging
    in museums and collections all over the place.

    Wikipedia suggests the one stolen in 2004 still hasn't been found.
     
    ogden, Aug 9, 2006
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  12. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    Missed that bit. I stand corrected - we were talking about post-modern
    art then.
    (I'm not much good with teminaology)

    Vermeer, Breugel, Lely and a bit of Rembrandt
    That's more my kind of thing.
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  13. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    LOL
    Probbly - judging by how much they paid for it...
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  14. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    And I'm shite at typnig...
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  15. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    Streuth. Was it that long ago?

    16 years ago, Bloody Hell. The conversation must have been sometime
    around then.
    I remember wondering about the problems involved in filling a house
    with concrete then stripping the bricks away afterwards. In which case,
    I suppose it worked on me - it "piqued my interest".
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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  16. abd08

    Ace Guest

    No, I mean modern art. The capitalisation of Contemporary implies that
    it too may have, or take on, some special meaning. Just use adjectives
    to mean what they say and we'll all understand each other.


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    Ace, Aug 9, 2006
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  17. Now how did I know that was the manufacturer you were speaking of
    before I scrolled down to see their name? ;-)
     
    Paul Varnsverry, Aug 9, 2006
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  18. abd08

    Big Dave Guest

    "Is this the 5 minute argument or the full half hour?"
     
    Big Dave, Aug 9, 2006
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    Krusty Guest

    I don't think you can use time to define it, assuming Ace is referring
    to the sort of stuff I hate too. Maybe just call it 'abstract'?


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    Krusty, Aug 9, 2006
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  20. <Adds Champ to auto-da-fe list>

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Aug 9, 2006
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