[QUOTE] Heh .. seriously, though, I'd still like to go and do something involving bikes and beers in France at some point in the next few months[/QUOTE] Me too and it'll certainly be happening, just a question of when and for how long. When I've fixed a date I'll post it here. Others are free and more than welcome to come along but people can organise their own trip and we'll meet somewhere near Dover. Checks vague-o-meter. That'll do nicely.