No Licence for Trackday?

I'm doing my first track day on Thursday, with a couple of friends.
After two weekend panics (one 'losing my licence down the back of the
sofa, but finally finding it', and one 'oil pump not priming after oil
change and making me think it had failed') I'm all ready to go.

One of my mates, however, was not so fortunate - he got GATSOed a few
weeks back, and has had to send his licence to the DVLA to get
endorsed. Silly sod forgot to take a photocopy of it before he sent it
as well.

There's no way he's going to get it back in time for the trackday, and
the organiser's (100% bikes) mails all say 'no licence - no trackday'
in big letters. Any idea how lenient they are about this? Is there
another form of ID they'll accept (e.g. can the DVLA fax him
something), or is he buggered?

Cheers in advance as always.

 

I've had this problem before too.

Get him to phone the DVLA and ask for a 'Certificate of entitlement to
drive'. My trackday organiser (at Darley Moor) accepted this.

The DVLA will want to post it to your mate but he could try asking them to
FAX it - dunno how successful he'll be.

 

I'm fairly sure it's part of their insurance conditions therefore, they
cannot be lenient. Likewise, if you're on a restricted licence your bike
must also be restricted.

 

I don't understand why you need a road licence to ride on a closed
track.

Surely you don't need one as it is private ground ?

 

The organisers can insist on whatever restrictions they like,
including that you must have a valid road licence for the type of
vehicle you're using on the track. Same at race-training days, etc.

 

Insurance

 

I think they want to know that you know which is the clutch and which is
the brake and all that stuff.

 

Understood.

I did my only track day at Mallory mumble years ago. It semed a bit
bit amateurish but was fun.

I was asked if I had my DL and (I had left it at home) when I said no,
they said never mind.

 

S'wot he told me. I know when I had to get mine endorsed, I sent it
somewhere other than the DVLA, but then that was a court case, rather than
just a NIP. And all they did was to write the bloody offence on in ball
point pen, then send it back. Now why they couldn't just write that on in
the court or something...

 

Ta - he tried, but failed. As you've guessed, they wouldn't fax it, and
couldn't post it by Thursday.

Sort of sorted now - he phoned 100% bikes, and they said that he could
'bring his mobile phone to the track day, pay five pounds, and they would
phone up the DVLA and confirm he was licenced to drive'. Sheeeeesh!

 

Five quid! For what?! That's a cheek. But I suppose if it was a free
service everyone might use it and the organisers would have to spend half
the morning on the blower to DVLA before getting the trackday underway.

 

Maybe dvla charge a fee for this service themselves?

 

That was before you could sue someone for letting you out on the track on a
motorcycle without telling you it was dangerous.

 

If you aren't competent to ride on the road, what makes you think you're
competent to ride round a track on a trackday?

 

Ever since he rode off without talking to you there's been this little
bit of needle there, n'est pas?

 

Are they on a trackday?

 

Who mentioned racing? We're talking about trackdays.

 

If 100% Bikes will go for that [1] then why bother involving the DVLA at
all? Surely his mum could phone instead?

[1] yeah, right.

 

If it's racing then it's ACU regulated.

 

When my brother was selling his first 50cc mx bike a young lad of 16
came to see it. He was gutted that that was all he was allowed to
ride on the road. You see, he'd been racing since the age of 5 or 6
and was currently in the top 5 in a 250cc road racing series (can't
remember which one, I think it may have been national).

So just because you can't ride on the road, doesn't mean you can't
ride.