no riding allowed

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010.

  1. Finally got a newish bike that I absolutlely love to ride and I'm not
    allowed to take it out .....

    After a month and half in and out of hospital looking for a mystery
    abdominal pain and being feed several pain killers by the Cronic Pain
    Team, I've finally been released back home. Problem is no one,
    including the pain team will commit to a yes/no answer to whether I
    can legally ride and if insurance would kick up a stink if something
    "did" happen. The only thing the doctors would say is that some people
    find that after a few months they find the side effects of the meds
    are less noticeable. To me, that isn't really good enough as I could
    think that I'm feeling alert and good enough to ride, but still be
    under the effects and a risk on the road.

    Has any one here have any experience with riding while having to
    take very strong pain killers (or other meds) or know what the rules
    are?

    My guess is the answer will be "don't ride, don't take the risk, they
    would throw the book at ya". Which is fair enough ..... but I do miss
    being able to get out on the bike.

    We have an answer to the pain, but it looks like the current treatment
    will take between 3 to 6 months. Hopefully the related pain will
    reduce quicker.
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    The Happy Drunk
    Breva 750
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  2. Wait till your treatment is years..
     
    Mister Biggus, Jan 18, 2010
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  3. My previous treatment had been going for 9 years, but but I'm hoping
    the new one will only take 6 months and then I will return to the
    previous treatment ..... less side effects with the previous treatment
    program. More important get off the the pain killers.
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    The Happy Drunk
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    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  4. My previous treatment had been going for 9 years, but but I'm hoping
    Yup, still going thru hell here too, mine was Nov 99. thankfully I got
    off the painkillers early. I hated the fawkin things.
     
    Mister Biggus, Jan 18, 2010
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  5. The Happy Drunk

    Hammo Guest

    If you want a definite answer, consult the state where you hold the licence.
    My experience is that once you do, your licence will be subject to
    periodical medical approval.

    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/renewingalicence/medical_tests.html
    Yes, you are rooted if you have a bingle. It is driving/riding under the
    influence.
    It is a trade off, ride in pain, may crash, ride with meds, may crash. At
    the end of the day, it is a privilege and not a right.
    Have you tried other pain treatments that don't rely on a pharmacological
    approach?

    All the best.

    H
     
    Hammo, Jan 18, 2010
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    CrazyCam Guest

    The Happy Drunk wrote:

    The experience, I have...... I never actually checked on the rules....

    I consider riding a motorcycle as therapy! :)
    Can anybody prove you are on "strong" medication? ;-)

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jan 18, 2010
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  7. The meds are prescription meds but a few are also controlled
    substances. The labels don't really commit,as in, "may" cause
    drowisness, if effected don't drive or operate any heavy machinery.
    The doctor says some people get used to the effects, but I'm worried
    that I may feel fine but still be under the effects. Sorta like having
    a few beers and feeling fine to drive. I'm sure if something happened
    while I was on the road, the insurance company would have a strong
    arguement for not paying out, and the police would like to have a word
    with me as well.

    So far all of the doctors follow the same line as the labels.

    This is a bit hypothetical, as the MOFAW has declared that I won't be
    driving, definitly won't be riding and has threatened to hide the keys
    to the bike and disc lock .........

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    The Happy Drunk
    Breva 750
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  8. I would guess it would come up in post blood tests?
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    The Happy Drunk
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    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  9. No, I have just managed to get the pain under control with minimal
    break through pain after five months. This is after several trips in
    ambulances with them finding me resembling a rolled up ball of sweat
    in the corner of my bed. While in hospital, my heart rate average was
    125 and blood pressuse was through the roof. I was told this was due
    to the pain, and.most of the hospital stays were for pain management,

    There has been previous suggestions of natural remedies, but I'm
    worried about the transition when trialing any new treatment ....
    there is no way I want to experience that type of pain ever again

    I think I may be grounded .... and I have to live vicariously through
    you lot ..... bugger
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    The Happy Drunk
    Breva 750
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  10. No, I agree with you that not everyone will experience the same
    effects after drinking, or taking meds. but was using the statement to
    explain my thinking when talking about the police and insurance
    companies. If I'm over the BAC limit or using drugs, the insurance and
    police will through the book at me no matter how fine I felt at the
    time.


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    The Happy Drunk
    Breva 750
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  11. The Happy Drunk

    atec 77 Guest

    you need to consult a reliable source and then test your self
    many painkillers suppress pain quite heavily and in so doing provide
    a euphoria which can impair judgement
    if the packaging says this then don't ride or you breach your duty of
    care to those around you
    Certainly I have done so in the past but NO on a regular basis
    Have you an answer about the cause ?
    gall bladder etc. ?
    as many of these things can be naturally aided by non chemical changes
     
    atec 77, Jan 18, 2010
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  12. The meds are prescription meds but a few are also controlled
    I think that there says no you shouldnt ride, for your own good, or
    some poor sod coming the other way if you do blow it in a corner.
     
    Mister Biggus, Jan 18, 2010
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  13. Yeah, as much as I hate it, I'm a passenger for the next few months
    :-(
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    The Happy Drunk
    Breva 750
     
    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  14. The Gall Bladder was thought to be the problem and was removed along
    with the appendix (while the bonnet was open we figured it could go as
    well). The gall bladder was diseased and the apendix was scarred
    indicating previous problems. We thought we got the problem but four
    days later I was back in hospital witht he same pain. Ended up finding
    vasculitis of the smaller arterties feeding the intestines caused by a
    condition called Behcets. My curent treatment was reduced and a new
    one comenced, but to fight the pain, my pain management was increased
    a fair bit.

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    The Happy Drunk
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    The Happy Drunk, Jan 18, 2010
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  15. The Happy Drunk

    atec 77 Guest

    Oh you are lucky
    Sister in law had it or a near relative ( now she has kidney stones)
    she found a combination of natural stuff including fish oil and some
    other disgusting stuff helped a lot , it did return to normal but having
    watched her on meds you probably shouldn't drive if you are in that lala
    thingy ( she certainly didn't function to well when heavily pain medicated)
    best of luck and I hope it improves soon
     
    atec 77, Jan 19, 2010
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    JL Guest

    And in fact his ability to determine his inability to ride may be
    impaired, hence he may have legal excuse if no one has told him he
    shouldn't drive / ride.

    Still won't help an innocent 3rd party if you wipe them out

    JL
    (note that is not legal advice, please consult an appropriate
    practitioner to determine your liability)
     
    JL, Jan 19, 2010
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  17. I imagine your pain meds are a narcotic and would show up on a random drug
    test. My advice. Don't risk it.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Jan 19, 2010
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  18. The Happy Drunk

    hippo Guest

    I sounds like the Doctor has hedged his/her bets to date. You could ask,
    "Please give me a yes or no answer. Can I ride during the next xx months?"
    If the answer is yes, I would then ask another question:
    "If I get stopped or have an accident and this medication is an issue, can
    I quote you on that?"
    Then if that's a yes too:
    "Can I have that in writing please?"
    Otherwise I wouldn't do it, sad though that may be.

    Having found out some years ago that one can get into an ugly situation
    when one is in an accident a few hours after having a local at the dentist
    (no, not a dentist at the local! Tsk! Tsk!), I would definitely err on the
    side of caution.

    BTW, what's going to be worse, being parked up, or living life vicariously
    through this lot? :)
     
    hippo, Jan 21, 2010
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