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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Feb 9, 2011.

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    Stephen Guest

    Mine failed. Alex's view is that it is foolish to rely on such
    things.
     
    Stephen, Feb 12, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    It would indeed be foolish if your very survival depended on electric
    gloves, but that's not the situation. I reckon whatever the folks
    who climb Mt. Everest use might be warm enough and wouldn't need any
    electricity. But I would sure enough start out with every possible
    creature comfort I could lay hands on, in addition to the best passive
    protection I could afford as well. Defense in depth would be my
    guiding philosophy as it no doubt was for you in your planning.
     
    Mark Olson, Feb 12, 2011
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  3. Thanks. What an absolutely lovely word. I'm using it in conversation
    now, every chance I get.
    Splendid.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 12, 2011
  4. You couldn't reasonably have done much more than that - conditions must
    have been really shit.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 12, 2011
  5. Different situation regarding the amount of body warmth being generated.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 12, 2011
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    Thomas Guest

    Ta, although the operative word in my post was "lazy," so not sure how
    useful it really is.
     
    Thomas, Feb 13, 2011
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    petrolcan Guest

    All they needed was some hot water bottles.
     
    petrolcan, Feb 13, 2011
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    I have been getting on fine without any heated equipment, other than
    grips.
    The bike has some tucano bar muffs fitted. I have been mixing and
    matching my biking and mountaineering gear and have been perfectly
    warm. Scarpa Vega plastic mountaineering boots. North Face fleece
    gloves with the tough gortex outer climbing gauntlets. Merino wool
    base layers, some pearl izumi winter cycling bib tights, jeans, paramo
    top, fleece jacket and my BMW Seattle riding suit on top. My lid (a
    Shoei Z-one) has a standard visor, not even a pinlock and I have been
    riding with it cracked open using a woollen neck tube pulled over my
    nose, like I do in the cold in the UK to prevent it misting. The
    conditions haven't presented a single problem for me, thus far.

    If you want to use electrically heated gear, all well and good. But
    your base kit must be able to withstand the conditions without
    assistance. If it doesn't and your heaters fail, you can end up in a
    fairly serious situation very quickly.
     
    Alex Ferrier, Feb 13, 2011
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    Thomas Guest

    I have one of these and it works great:
    http://www.hotsuits.com.au/
    Of course, it only works for ~1 hour, and you have to boil it to reset
    it, but if you're freezing it will get you warm. The packs are also
    made in a variety of shapes - for hands, feet, etc.
     
    Thomas, Feb 13, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    <waves full bladder>

    <pisses off>
     
    SIRPip, Feb 13, 2011
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    darsy Guest


    at 5:39am? That's pretty good retention from last night's ales.
     
    darsy, Feb 13, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    And too ignorant to get the formula right? -32/1.8
     
    Ace, Feb 13, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    It is for a bloke my age.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 13, 2011
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    darsy Guest

    I'm a 4:30am man, myself. Like clockwork. Well, if clockwork were
    driven by piss.
     
    darsy, Feb 13, 2011
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    TMack Guest

    As I don't know the 18 times table by heart I've always preferred the
    "subtract 32 then divide by 9 then multiply by 5" version. Using this
    approach I can convert either way in my head without too much
    difficulty.
     
    TMack, Feb 13, 2011
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    I usually remember that 16=61, and 28=82, and work backwards and
    forwards from there.
     
    Salad Dodger, Feb 13, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    Boggle! Yes, your numbers are correct when rounded off, but instead of
    remembering approximations, why not remember a few points that are
    exact, since it's no less trouble than remembering approximations?
    The ones I favor are:

    20 = 68 (thank you Kodak)
    10 = 50
    0 = 32
    -40 = -40

    etc.
     
    Mark Olson, Feb 13, 2011
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    Easy, because of the spoonerisms involved.

    It's not as if I'll be converting for anything important.

    It doesn't really matter in the Uk, anyway, given our "tradition" of
    expressing low temeratures in degC (3, 0, -2, etc) and high ones in
    degF ( high 70s, mid 80s, etc)
     
    Salad Dodger, Feb 13, 2011
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    Mark Olson Guest

    Penny drops.
    Sort of like how you buy fuel in liters but still use miles to
    measure distance, and figure consumption in miles per gallon.
    Perfectly understandable.

    Speaking of temps I'm a bit excited because it might break 40F today
    and it's been a long, fairly cold and quite snowy winter up to this
    point, I just might break out one of the bikes for a short bimble.
     
    Mark Olson, Feb 13, 2011
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    darsy Guest

    I find it easier to just ignore Fahrenheit measurements.
     
    darsy, Feb 13, 2011
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