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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Andy Bonwick, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Has anyone here had any experience of having a stair lift fitted and
    if so who does a good job and who's the Everest double glazing of
    stair lifts?

    It's reached the point where my dad needs a stairlift to get upstairs
    (he keeps falling down and leaving blood on the paintwork) but finding
    out who to go to is a minefield. Their local council are great at
    sorting out most things for him but they're not allowed to make a
    recommendation when it comes to this sort of thing.

    They live in Chesterfield if that makes a difference and I've
    volunteered to be there when the sales droids go to do their bit so
    anyone coming out with one of those "this offer only stands for
    tonight" type of sales pitch is going to be really sorry they turned
    up.

    Cost isn't an issue because the important thing is that my dad can get
    up and down the stairs without the risk of killing himself and I don't
    want to be fielding phone calls because it's jammed up and he's stuck
    upstairs and feeling pissed off about the situation.

    Yes, I have thought about asking Champ but thought he'd take it the
    wrong way....
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 22, 2010
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    SteveH Guest

    The local Age Concern branch will probably know who can and can't be
    trusted.
     
    SteveH, Feb 22, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    Had you asked this a couple of months back I could have checked the
    make of the one my Gran had, but it's been removed as she's recently
    had to move to a care home. Don't recall it ever breaking down in the
    10 or so years she used it.

    Will see if my mum knows when I give her a call later in the week.
     
    ginge, Feb 22, 2010
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  4. Andy Bonwick

    YTC#1 Guest

    Jean is an OT. It's here job to sort this stuff out.

    I suggest you give me/her a ring in tomorrow evening, or drop her an
    email.
    Do they not have OTs or a PCT service there ?
     
    YTC#1, Feb 22, 2010
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  5. Andy Bonwick

    petrolcan Guest

    Does he have any friends or neighbours that have one fitted? Might be
    worth talking to.

    I'll make a call tomorrow and speak to someone who had one fitted
    several years ago and ask them details, assuming they remember anything.
     
    petrolcan, Feb 22, 2010
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  6. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Good idea, I'll pass that on.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 22, 2010
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  7. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Cheers, that'll be really useful because I'd guess she had it done by
    someone local?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 22, 2010
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  8. Andy Bonwick

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Cool, I've got your phone number.
    <bangs head against wall>

    **** off with the bloody acronyms.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 22, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    Burton-On-Trent, so I'd imagine they'd be a company that would cover
    Chesterfield too.
     
    ginge, Feb 22, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    I can't recommend a particular firm but also consider the rental option.
    This should come with a maintenance contract and may work out cheaper if
    this is likely to be a short-term measure before you put him in a home.

    There is a long waiting list for a free stair lift in this area but our OTs
    offer the rental option which can usually be arranged quite quickly. IIRC
    there is a grant[1] which will cover the installation cost & bond. Monthly
    rental is about £50 after that. The rental firm will remove it when no
    longer required.

    Contact his Community Care team and ask for an assessment by an OT if you
    think a rental might be a goer.

    [1] possibly means tested
     
    wessie, Feb 22, 2010
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  11. Andy Bonwick

    Krusty Guest

    No idea, but a man of your talents should be able to knock-up a
    trebuchet in no time.
     
    Krusty, Feb 22, 2010
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  12. Wotcha.
    I've just had one fitted here - my rebuilt pelvis ain't up to stairs yet.
    ( well, I can manage the stairs but the powers that be said a stair lift
    would be safer )
    When I say "fitted", technically it is being stored in my house until it's
    needed, IYSWIM.
    I'm lucky enough to work as a lift engineer, and I have a most kind and
    understanding gaffer.

    Brand-wise, you can't go far wrong with Stannah. They've been making 'em
    long enough so most of the problems have been sorted now. Come to think of
    it, I worked for 'em for two years or so and never came across any really
    bad stair lifts.
    I know we do work all over the place, but it's mainly social service
    contracts as opposed to new installation of stairlifts.
    I'd be inclined to give Stannah a call - they have quite a few regional
    offices.
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Feb 22, 2010
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    malc Guest

    ITYM FOWTBA

    HTH

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    Malc

    Rusted and ropy.
    Dog-eared old copy.
    Vintage and classic,
    or just plain Jurassic:
    all words to describe me.
     
    malc, Feb 22, 2010
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    Owen Guest

    Stannah Stairlifts. My MIL's stannah always did what it said on the
    box. Very simple and you can prolly get a good deal - Google is your
    friend.
     
    Owen, Feb 22, 2010
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  15. Andy Bonwick

    YTC#1 Guest

    Its Jean here - this is something which crops up quite a lot in my line of
    work (and yes we're not allowed to recommend specific companies either).
    Probably any of the big national companies are good, e.g Stannah, or if
    there are any well known disability equipment suppliers in the local
    area (a quick net search should highlight if there are any issues with
    them). A particular one to avoid is ABM Mobility (Derbyshire based company
    who operate nationally- Derbyshire trading standards recently took out a
    court injunction against them re unfair sales practices).
    point where my dad needs a stairlift to get upstairs
    Indeed. And some companies really go for it when flogging mobility
    equipment (see 'ABM Mobility' above). If he's got a straight flight of
    stairs, its worth asking the company if they have any reconditioned
    stairlifts, these can be just as good as new ones but considerably
    cheaper. If the stair setup means that the stairlift has a bend or turn in
    it, then only a new one will do. Expect to pay anything between £1500,
    for a 'straight' setup, and up to £3000 if a 'turn' is involved. Any
    more than this is a rip off unless his stairs are unusually twisty

    Other things to take into account are the seat height, both at bottom
    and top of stairs (needs to be around the same height as the distance
    between base of heel on floor and back of knee - I've seen several
    stairlifts where the seat at the bottom was too high, causing a lot of
    problems.
    Other things to take into account are the cost of a yearly
    service contract (I highly recommend that your dad takes one out), whether
    this is tied into the company who supplied the stairlift, and whether they
    provide a speedy emergency call out service. If he's falling a lot it
    would also be worth him signing up for an emergency alarm system
    (arranged separately to stairlift co.)where he wears a pendant with call
    button, linked to his phone. This would also act as a back up if he gets
    stuck half way up the stairlift. In St Helens the 'Careline ' system
    costs about £4/week,arranged via social services. Chesterfield would have
    their own arrangements.
     
    YTC#1, Feb 22, 2010
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    YTC#1 Guest

    And she has just posted an essay :)
    Occupational Therapists.
    Primary Care Trust

    Its stuff you pay Tax for.
     
    YTC#1, Feb 22, 2010
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    Spete Guest

    Paging Auvache, Auvache to the phone with the big buttons please
     
    Spete, Feb 22, 2010
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    crn Guest

    Recommended :- Stannah.
    Avoid :- The rest.

    I had a Stannah installed when we lived in Clevedon and they were
    excellent, never had a problem and their service contract man arrived
    at regular intervals and replaced one iffy battery pack [1], for free.
    They will buy back your lift if it is not longer needed within 3 years
    and sell it on as a refurbished unit.

    Previous installation was a heap of crap called Bison Bede which cost
    more and was an absolute bloody disaster.

    [1] Stannah lifts are driven by a battery in the chair which is charged
    while it is parked at the top or bottom. So nobody gets stranded if
    the power fails.
     
    crn, Feb 22, 2010
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  19. Andy Bonwick

    ginge Guest

    How can you tell?
     
    ginge, Feb 22, 2010
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  20. Andy Bonwick

    greybeard Guest


    The one that my Mum had was made supplied and fitted by Stannah. That was in
    '87 and my Dad was still using it when he turned his toes up in 2001. It was
    serviced a few times by Stannah themselves but it never failed or missed a
    beat.
    Fantastic bit of kit.
     
    greybeard, Feb 23, 2010
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