NSW: more on greenslips

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. Zebee Johnstone, Jul 24, 2010
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    Moike Guest

    ....and I don't see any "if elected" undertaking to fix the problem.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jul 25, 2010
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    CrazyCam Guest


    ...and, even if you did see one, would you believe it?

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 25, 2010
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    hippo Guest

    AFAIR, they *did* come through with repealing Lights On once elected.
     
    hippo, Jul 25, 2010
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    JustBiggus Guest

    And if we can't believe our politicians, why do we vote for them,
    Who votes anymore??
     
    JustBiggus, Jul 25, 2010
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  6. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:08:41 +1000
    because it isn't competitive.... the government still has a hand in
    it.

    I don't know the exact details, but my understanding is that the MAA
    sets criteria and possibly some variety of pricing.

    "CTP insurers also have discretion to offer discounts and impose
    loadings on premiums within the range allowed by the MAA Premium
    Determination Guidelines (available in the MAA Guidelines section of
    this website)."

    I think the big increases are not the insurance as much as they are
    the levy that is supposed to pay for people who are totally
    incapacitated - and it seems to cover people who are not covered by
    3rd party insurance. " This scheme provides medical care, treatment,
    rehabilitation, attendant care and support to anyone catastrophically
    injured (such as severe spinal cord and/or a traumatic brain injury)
    for the rest of their life."

    However... not just those in crashes! As far as I know it is all such
    people.

    When it was introduced parliament was told the average would be $20
    per vehicle. As they are setting it at a minimum of 30% of the CTP
    premium it isn't clear how that could ever be true, no matter the
    average used mode median or mean.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 25, 2010
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Diogenes wrote:

    Good question Gerry.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 26, 2010
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    hippo Guest

    Yeah. The letter that introduced it said that there would be a 'small'
    increase. For regional owners at least, it's been more 'significant' than
    'small'.

    CTP in NSW has been an expensive undertaking ever since the panic about
    raising premiums to cover unfunded liabilities under the (IIRC) Unsworth
    Govt. It's just got increasingly expensive ever since, especially when
    operators get slugged agian for what is basically another raft of
    potential unfunded liabilities.

    Let's hope they don't discover any more any time soon! ;(
     
    hippo, Jul 26, 2010
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    theo Guest

    I forget the formula we're supposed to use. Is it one politician every
    third day and one priest every second day, or the other way around?

    Theo
     
    theo, Jul 26, 2010
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Strange you should say that Gerry.

    Once, back in the mists of antiquity, or rather the days of 2JJ, in
    Sydney, I phoned in to a discussion about electoral reform.

    I explained that the problem was that folk could stand for election too
    easily, and that changing the rules so the winner in an election is
    elected, but the losers all get taken out and shot would improve the
    quality and commitment of those standing for election.

    It actually went live to air, and even the 2JJ person sounded rather
    shocked. :)

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 26, 2010
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Either way works for me.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 26, 2010
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    theo Guest

    Isn't that the way it works in a lot of countries? Singapore,
    Indonesia, most of Africa and South America? Except in countries that
    have things the USA wants and then the winner or loser gets shot (with
    the assistance of the CIA) depending on whether they comply with the
    USA's wishes.

    Theo
     
    theo, Jul 27, 2010
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    Marts Guest

    Nev.. wrote...
    Don't they have a government authority in NSW that oversees such charges? We
    have an Essential Services Commission here in Victoria that regulates energy
    prices.

    Oh wait, that's not a good example...
     
    Marts, Jul 28, 2010
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    Moike Guest

    It seems to work. I've paid nothing for electricity since february.

    I suspect it has more to do with the ineptitude of my electrickery
    "supplier" in getting their act together than the sheer power of My 1KW
    solar system.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jul 28, 2010
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Nev.. wrote:

    It appears that the old-fashioned, spinning disc type meter is actually
    bi-directional.

    When nothing much electrical is running in the house, and the new solar
    panels can see the sun, the disc turns slowly backwards. :)

    We are just waiting on the new, meter to measure input to grid.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 28, 2010
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    Marts Guest

    Nev.. wrote...
    Lucky you.

    Anyway, what happened to the "moratorium" on smart meters (presuming that this
    bi-directional meter is a smart meter) until after Labor hopes that it will be
    back in power? (no pun intended).

    How much is this meter going to cost you?
     
    Marts, Jul 29, 2010
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    Marts Guest

    Moike wrote...
    You've gotta solar system? How many planets does it have?
     
    Marts, Jul 29, 2010
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    Marts Guest

    CrazyCam wrote...
    And if we (Victoria) don't get the gross tariff thingy that NSW has, then the
    standard meter (it's called an induction disc relay) will suffice.

    All the meter reader has to do is read the meter. Whatever your solar "system"
    generates will reduce total usage. Of course, if it runs backwards, then your
    last meter reading will be subtracted from the new one, thus probably giving you
    a negative figure if it runs backwards longer than it runs forwards.

    This means that you will get a credit for the kw that you export based on your
    current GD tariff.

    But then, when the smartmeters are introduced, god knows, you may have a
    recycled 200MW generator salvaged from Hazelwood tacked onto it, and you'd still
    have to pay...
     
    Marts, Jul 29, 2010
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    Marts Guest

    Zebee Johnstone wrote...

    [chomp..]

    There's a bit of a shitfight happening on Netrider with some people hanging it
    on Boris of AMCN (and he via his mates, posting the usual retorts).

    In one message it's alleged that he wanted to beat the crap out of one of the
    MCC delegates.

    What do you know of it, if it's indeed, true?

    Doesn't make for a good look (even if the MRA did actually have two old codgers
    bitch slapping each other at one meeting).
     
    Marts, Jul 29, 2010
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    Moike Guest

    Not quite so.

    The smart meter keeps separate tallies for electrickery sucked out of
    the grid and that pumped back in. The latter is credited at about three
    timed the rate of the former. So during the day, when most stuff in our
    house is turned off, we are totting up credits at a little over 60c/kwh.
    Later on, when the flow goes the other way, we pay a tad over 20c (at
    peak rates). Anything we generate and use directly is just 'free'.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jul 29, 2010
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