NSW/SYD: banning colours

As an Englishman in exile (still after 25 years - might go for the op
this year <g>) I have to take exception to the idea of English being the
native language of most Australians. You seem to forget; we still own
the source code. Australia, at best, has a limited EULA to use (or
should that be abuse?).

Running, Ducking

Nigel.

 

Nigel Allen wrote:

Hi Nigel.

It's not just a case of deciding to go for the op, you have to pass an
aptitude test first, nowadays.

Have you been back in England much in the last 25 years?

If not, you'll be in for a surprise.

You say "we still own the source code", but, from the moment you get on
the plane/boat out of UK, you stop being a part of the "we".

Arrive in Oz, and suddenly you are part of the "we" who shape and
develop Australian English...... based on a pirated copy of 200 year old
English.

All languages change over time, and those changes can be surprisingly quick.

I know when I have been back in Scotland, folk tell me how Ozzie I sound.


regards,
CrazyCam

 

Yes....... That's one of the things that put me off. Whilst I regard Oz
as one of my homes, it pisses me off beyond belief that having lived
here and paid taxes etc for 25 years I have to study white Australian
history to get a passport. It's not that I have no interest in history;
far from it; I just object violently to being told that it is a
governmental prerequisite to a passport. Especially one set up by the ex
Prime Miniature.

I think of myself as a Scouser culturally (contradiction in terms??)
rather than English. Have been back quite a few times - I'm not sure
that the place itself has changed more than me being used to an entirely
different way of life. I know that I still miss "real beer" and not this
cold fizzy shit that most people drink here and I certainly miss the
Scouse humour.

You couldn't see my tongue firmly lodged in my cheek from where you're

I have a similar experience. In Oz, ppl tell me that I have a strong
Scouse accent ("Have you been here long?"). In the 'pool, ppl tell me
that I have a strong Oz accent.

Of course, the best conversations I have with Scousers go something like:

Them: "So you live in Australia then"?
Me: "Yes"
Them: "How long 'ave yer bin there"?
Me: "Around 25 years"
Them: "Are yer gunna stay there"?

Nigel.

 

You're not organising a boycott - you're providing a public service. By
advising people of which places won't let you in, if you're wearing
colours, you're letting people have the opportunity to decide what to
wear before they turn up at said venue.

Just like a web site listing the names and locations of servos that
won't serve you if you wear a helmet.

 

Nigel Allen wrote:

Aye, the Scots are about the same!

regards,
CrazyCam

 

You may have the source code for your bastardization version of
English/German/French
but we have the original strine


so you should, we don't want whinging unionised poms

One of your homes?
how many homes do you have and where did you get the money to buy them?
from your 25 years here taking all our money?

And so you fucking well should
by the sound of your rant, you are nothing but a fucking whinging pom

Set up originally by your fucking pom mates

Then one answer to your dilemma,

Go back to Liverpool

and with OZ English, all for the better

Hope not

 

Looks like someone didn't get one this morning

I'm very pleased for you. Incidentally - the original "strine" is no
more than bastardised cockney - but you probably are aware of that -
hence your evident "frostiness".

Nobody likes wingers do they Are you trying to suggest that "whinging
unionised poms" are somehow different from "whinging unionised aussies"?
Are you always so grumpy or is it a special day today?

Oh dear. English lesson time.

Home != House.

I have many places that I regard as home but I do not own a house.

Rant? You think that was a rant? I thought that's what you were engaging
in. Or would you prefer "undeserved tirade"?

Not quite with you there "old chap" (am I in character now?). Does my
distaste for John Howard offend you? I'm not quite sure to whom you are
referring but no doubt you will enlighten me if in monosyllabic terms.

Oh George - is that the best you can do? Does not the fact that I have
been here for 25 years convey anything to you? The fact that most common
Australian beers are cold, tasteless and fizzy has obviously offended
you. I won't sleep tonight Oh, wait a minute. Yes I will. Mmmm.
Boddingtons.

It has always astonished me how some horses love to get the bit between
their teeth and then start to foam at the mouth. And all over nothing.

Nigel.

 

Thank you for the compliment
but it will get you nowhere

Special day today, just for you.

Means nothing at all, you say you have been back there yet still keep coming
back....why?

means that you might prefer this place instead of england, so if that be the
case, then stop complaining about our beer
be content with what you have or go back and enjoy your warm flat ale

If you don;t like the beer here and prefer the beer in england, then I
suggest again.....go back there..

Nigel...well, I used to work with a Nigel, but he was the good one, he wasnt
a pom

 

Erm.... Because I live here and have done for the past 25 years - did
you miss that bit?

Now I know I'm just a whinging pom, but I want to make sure I have this
correct. You believe that because Australia produces, markets and
consumes cold fizzy dog piss that I should be "content" with that?

Oh George! We British are made of sterner stuff than that. If we don't
like something we improve upon it. Perhaps that's what's wrong. You
espouse the view of "put up with it" while I prefer "do something about
it". Oh well - "Chacun voit midi à sa porte" as they say in my native
Liverpool.

You think that because you don;t like a particular common commodity
should should not live in a particular place? That's a strange notion;
but yours to embrace I suppose.

Never mind George - I'll try to be a really obnoxious person so that I
can remind you of better days. If I can just please one person on Usenet
then my work here is done.

Toodle pip old chap.

Nigel.

 

As they say in my native Melbourne **** off

 

George - you are obviously the king of wit and repartee and I am no
match for your intellect.


Nigel.

 

<humumgous snippage, and sorry if that means I've fucked u the
attributions...>

In the long GWF/Nigel interaction, GWF said:
and Nigel said:

Hello George - um.... that's such a piss-weak argument you have there. I'm
guessing you can't possibly be serious. I'm an Aussie and I think Aussie
beer is shite. Where should I "go back to"? Actually, I don't like beer of
any nationality. My solution is to give all the beer to the aus.motians who
DO like it. Johno? Oh, Johno petal.....!

What about Aussies who complain about the government? Where should they go?
This is their country after all - you can't tell them to go back to ***....

I'll let you into a secret, George.....

Sometimes.... just sometimes..... people don't like stuff. It's not a
fucking immigration issue. You're just being silly.

Still coming to the Canberra get-together on Sunday, George? I'll give you
my share of the shithouse Aussie beer that I don't like any better than the
shithouse beer from any other place on this planet.

betty

 

Some Australian beer is good, most is crap (like most countries).

Complaining about a Government and not doing something about it is a gutless
move, get involved and make a positive contribution to the Governance of
your community.

Boxer

 

Yep, be there for sure but you can keep your beer, don't touch the stuff.

Nigel is a nice chappie and he did get hooked anough for me to send him off
on another chapter

 

Boxer, you're hijacking the argument. George thinks that ppl who complain
about something in a particular place should go back somewhere else (if they
actually CAME from somewhere else - still no determination on where
native-born complainers actually belong.... ) You're talking about a totally
different thing!

betty

 

Umm but Boxer, what happens if the only useful and effective positive
political contribution you can think of involves the highly illegal
usage of semi automatic firearms in and around the houses of
parliament ?

Not being able to utilise the only useful remedy to the problem just
leaves a lot of us feeling rather stymied...

JL
(Anybody willing to stand for political office is, by definition,
unsuited to hold that office )

 

I dont believe so

Cant see why it should be

No other groups have been banned from public venues before because of
previous problems with those groups.

No they should not, its not about motorcyclists generally and its not
about their use of motorcycles either. Its because of who they are
and what they represent.

I dont think the MCC should touch it at all.

Alan

 

But it could be to allow for expansion with their impending BMW
franchise.

Shh, I didnt tell you OK.

Al

 

Donald Duck MC

I'll tell you what happened. Wewent to put a bloke in Hawthorn in hospital and f*cked it up bad - got the wrong house and attacked a family having a BBQ - in 1978. The brothers split soon after but they broke the code of silence. I did 5 years jail. Been hunting down ex Donald Duck Motorcycle Club members since to "settle a few accounts". They know who they are and they know who is after them.