NSW to act against bikie gang violence

But I didn't say 'stop violence'. I said 'why not just [say][1] "stop
violence"' in the context of making the point that the catch phrase 'stop
violence against women and children' is rather narrow and pointless, and
ignores all the men who are also victims of violence, whilst seeming to
imply that only men are perpetrators of violence.

P
[1] inserted for clarity since context now is void

 

Yeah, you might want to get a second opinion from the Communist or
Ba'ath parties about that.

Nev..

 

Do tell ? If memory serves, Menzies' attempt to outlaw the communist
party in Oz foundered in the courts

JL

 

No way. It has to be a Gov't employee beating the crap out of the
perps. Anything else is just wrong.

Theo

 

The feds have no constitutional power to outlaw a political party in
peace-time. The States/Territories are not so limited.

 

My memory thinks it went to a referendum.

* 1949 Menzies tried to ban the Communist Party but the legislation
was declared invalid by the High Court. Later he was defeated in a
referendum.

And Wow!
In line with his election policy, in April 1950 Menzies introduced a
Bill to ban the Communist Party in Australia. The Bill provided for
the dissolution of the party and the seizure of its assets. It also
provided that people declared by the government to be Communists would
be barred from trade union office and from employment by the
Commonwealth. Their homes could be raided without warrant by police
searching for evidence against them, and declared people would have to
prove their innocence, rather than the police having to prove their
guilt.

In 1951 the Menzies conservative government tried to ban the party,
first by legislation that was declared invalid by the High Court, then
by referendum to try to overcome the constitutional obstacles to that
legislation, but the referendum was narrowly defeated.

OK Both.

Theo

 

And therefore the question "how does one stop the violence" is not a
non sequitur.

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Onya bike

Gerry

 

I'd have to find it first... It's around here somewhere...


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Gee, that's producing WONDERS in iraq and Afghanistan...


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Of course. How many bikie gangs do you see over there now?

--
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.

"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.

"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.

 

Bikie gangs, Sunni gangs, Shia gangs, Taliban gangs, al-Qeida gangs,
what's the friggin difference? They're all extremists who happily
opt for sorting out their grievances via the use of violence.


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Bikes, usually.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:11:28 +1000

Usually.

Rumour has it that the ones in some patch clubs that are doing the
majority of the crime aren't that into motorcycles.

But they know the value of a bunch of thugs with a lot of ego invested
in being outlaws.

Zebee

 

Choice of firearm?

Boxer

 

Glad they're not riding these yet;
http://shoutwire.com/fullpicture/stusbattlebike_jpg5fdba44c-9535-4abc-8b1e-5460e8f0d888.jpg

 

I was responding to the suggestion that "Any legislation aimed at
stopping them meeting or functioning in other legal ways would then
apply to the Labor and Liberal Parties too". Whether it was successful
or unsuccessful isn't really relevant.

I'm sure in the modern political climate the process would be much
easier. They would just need to pass legislation to outlaw or prohibit
unnamed unsavoury organisations who would then be named in a register
separate to the act itself and maintained by some ministor. Probably
throwing the phrase "links to terrorism" in which will ensure a clear
passage through parliament (who really wants to be the first
Unaustralian pollie to 'support terrorists?' by voting against such a
bill). Then it would merely be a formality of the responsible minister
updating some register of the organisations to be outlawed.

Nev..
'07 XB12X
'08 DL1000K8

 

And that gives them the right to go around monstering people,
threatening Ulysses old farts, bullying all and sundry, and just
generally adopting an intimidating demeanor?

Bullshiiiiiiiit....


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Onya bike

Gerry

 

Bit ironic putting the flag on it .. you can tell it's american because
it's ugly.

 

No but it gives them the right to be called a "bikie gang" whereas the
others (without bikes) are just "gangs".


G-S

 

"I don't belong to just ANY old gang, you know... I belong to a BIKIE
gang... Oooooer...


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Onya bike

Gerry