Odd interaction with Constable Plod

Cunts. Can you point me to another planet where the local enforcement
agancies aren't so childish?

 

Naah shit no. He didn't harass me really, tailgating me for a couple of
metres is neither here nor there. My usual approach to tail gaters is to
slow down. I came to a complete stop on the Anzac bridge once before the
*&^%$head got the hint and went round.

<shrug> Maybe, maybe not.

Anyway, asked the question 'cos I couldn't see how posting me a ticket
later wasn't a bluff. If it's not I'll contest it and demand to see the
video footage. His demeanour screamed someone who was disappointed
because he thought he was going to be able to get a booking of someone
being a complete hoon, and I was doing the speed limit when he got his
radar on me.

JL
(it must be disappointing when people don't live up to your preconceptions)

 

Ahh but if I'm not mistaken he doesn't get a choice if my nice lawyer
demands a copy before the hearing (and failure to deliver weakens his
case considerably), and I'll be filing for a copy of that the second I
receive a ticket in the mail (if such a beast does arrive)

JL

 

: : > FuTAnT wrote:
: >> I'm just wondering wether or not they have cameras in their HP cars.??
: >> Do they take a photo/video of the bikes/cars that get done?
: >
: > Yeah he told me I was on candid camera (which makes me happy 'cos it'll
: > show the absence of a radar reading if I take it to court)
: >
: Only if He choses to submit the video as evidence!

If he made an admission that a recording had been made, such recording can
be requested as part of discovery should JL decide to contest the matter in
court. If the recording has been subsequently destroyed or cannot be
produced, then he looks a little silly (not that that destroys his case).

Me? I'd just pay the fine.

I have been let off in similar circumstances previously. Once there was no
radar, and once there was but the radar was well below the speed I had been
doing. I gave it the berries for two gears and then slowed down after
changing into 3rd - It was was a well lit, empty three lane highway at
night, and the only other vehicle around was a radar car approaching from
behind over 1.5 kilometres away. Since I ride an FZ1 you can hazard a guess
at what the peak speed after changing into 3rd could have been, and another
clue is that the radar locked at 106km/h. I felt a bit silly when I saw the
ligths come on in my mirrors.

P

 

I'm not quite sure what that means Nev, but I thought I stated fairly
clearly that my terminal velocity was very close to exactly the speed
limit. If he wanted to ping me for 74 in a 70 or whatever, I'd probably
just cop it and shut up (albeit I'd ask to see the radar and ask why he
wanted to be so draconian about the speed limit). I'm actually not all
that interested in the waffle about speed limits and what have you
(albeit I have to wade through it to try and get an answer to the bit
I'm interested in).

The bit I found curious was that he clearly didn't know how fast I was
going, and he didn't book me on the spot.

Anyway, you've answered the question I was interested in - are "mailed
after the fact" tickets legit - answer: yes you've personally got one
(in victoria, but I can't see that the state issuing matters), and
you've passed on that you recalled M-B saying he gave them out. NB if
you'd care to google up the bit you're thinking of I'd appreciate it
'cos I couldn't find any post of his which said that (could be my cruddy
google technique)

JL

 

To be pedantic, I don't think it's an admission per se, I think it's a
legal requirement that he states he's recording it.

Well it depends what I get booked for, assuming he actually sends me a
ticket and it's not a bluff. Not forgetting that less than 15K is now 3
points. Given his ambit claim to open the conversation was a stupid
number that I shan't repeat*, the ticket could have anything he wants on
it if he's going to pluck it out of thin air.

JL
* I doubt there's any motorcycle that will do what he suggested, stock,
and certainly not a very mildly tuned 1 litre Vtwin. ZX12/Hayabusa/GSXR
thou - *maybe*, but only at the pub after a lot of beers...

 

I take it that you've already written detailed notes of
the conversation and everything else that comes to mind?

GB

 

I personally have received "lots fo tickets" (two to be precise)
in the mail in NSW. The cop was sufficiently pissed off that I asked
him for ID and then called the cops on the spot to make sure that
he was a real cop that he dragged it out, sent tickets dated
89 days after the claimed offence, and made up an extra one as well.

GB

 

I had one tell me, and I quote, "I read a book once. It went in
one ear and out the other" unquote during the course of a roadside
stop once, *and* I have a witness - a third person who was there
and enjoyed the conversation as much as I did!


I've been kicking myself ever since. That was the one time in
my life where I could have looked an actual cop in the eye and
said "If you were as bright as you think you are, you wouldn't
be a cop" and gotten away with it *and* had a witness to assist
with future bragging AND I didn't bloody do it. <slams head on
desk>. An opportunity like that only comes along once in a
lifetime, and I stuffed it! :-/


GB, You're coming to the unaugural, right MB?

 

Just the once? Geez, I get 'em all the time. Buses coming out of
The Crescent underpass onto the Anzac Bridge are a regular problem
IME. 'cos I usually come off the end of Victoria Rd in the middle or
outside lane (too slow to matter, clearer run up onto the bridge), by
the time you get halfway up to the bridge, there's a morning peak
hour government bus or three oozing across from far left to far
right without looking (and usually without indicating). They're a
routine hazard in their own right, but then if you're unlucky enough
to have one on your tail going across the Anzac Bridge in heavy
traffic, they seem to regard acceptable minimum distance to the
vehicle in front as being about three feet. Takes 'em forever to
get moving again too, uphill with a full load of punters, <smirk>.

GB

 

Yeah, you've been reading them

 

You've got them

Gary

--

"As the Bush White House desperately maneuvers in Iraq to prevent the new
government from being run according to the dictates of religious
fundamentalists, it desperately maneuvers here to pander to religious
fundamentalists who want to dictate how the government should be run."

Maureen Dowd, the New York Times

 

How would you know... you had been travelling at least 300m before you
realised he was there......
What were you riding that took 250+M to get to 70km/h (you said something
about berries....)

Richard

 

When I was still in Canberra, I got a perfectly legitimate and
deserved (from a legal perspective) parking ticket for the bike in
Civic one time. Parking tickets shit me just on principle though, so I
decided to bitch and whine and actually got off it anyway. Even if
you're technically wrong anyway, sometimes it doesn't hurt to give it
a go!


Damien
GPX250 -> CBR600 -> Shadow?

 

Trouble is, so is c*ntstable plod. I dunno if it happens
here, but one certainly doesn't get to specific about real-
world incidents over in aus.aviation (or any public aviation
forum), 'cos some over-zealous regulatory types have been
known to act on what they read. One Australian aviation
magazine stopped publishing their funny pages 'cos regulators
were taking them a bit too seriously. The walls have ears.

GB, just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not
out to get me.

 

A variation on the old banana skin in the gearbox approach?

GB

 

John,

Yeah, ive had something silimar happen to me in the car, two coppers being
total jerks and trying to stick it to me ( we are gonna take you car from
you, and then we will be driving around in it... blah blah blah ) for doing
a little chirpy round a corner ( okay, granted it was in front of the cop
shop but hey... ) Anyways, at the end of the convo he says yeah, and you
have a nice day buddy, youll get a ticket in the mail..... Never
happened.... *shrugs*...

-Whitey