Of Gingenuity and the renewal of the Brown Dustcoat

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip, Sep 22, 2009.

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    Pip Guest

    You might have to forgive the smugness that overflows here ;-)

    I've been doing a bit of furniture 'restoration', see. The old bar
    stools in the pub were getting a bit past their sell-by date and had
    started to wobble, quite alarmingly at times. The only times they
    seemed firm was some way into a session when the sitter would weave
    around more than the sat-upon. The crunch (literally) came when one of
    the stools had a couple of seat-back spindles snapped, at seat height,
    by an alcohol-fuelled clumsy fat bastard who flung his lardy-arsed self
    into it from an unsafe height.

    "No problem", I said, "I'll take it home and spin a couple of spindles
    up on the lathe". This is where the problems started, of course. To
    make a new spindle, one needs an old spindle as a pattern. Measuring it
    in situ is one thing, having the thing in the hand is another completely
    different thing. It shouldn't be a problem, for I had in my hand, so to
    speak, a collection of whole spindles and a couple of busted ones ...
    all attached to the chair.

    Dismantling, that's the thing. It would have to come apart to allow
    fitting of the new spindles in any case, and the glue was dried out and
    pretty dead too, which should help my cause. The thing is, these bar
    stools are mass-produced on the cheap. The machining isn't too bad, but
    they're banged together - and, it turns out, they have sneaky little
    steel pins, like nails with the heads cut off, hammered through the
    joints and driven /below the surface of the wood/.

    So - how do you dig out a parallel-sided steel pin, that's buried in
    wood that you really don't want to damage? That, my friend, is the
    question.


    I acknowledged that a) I'd have to do /some/ damage - but b) it wouldn't
    really matter so much because a) the thing was effectively buggered
    anyway, and b) I'd have to secure the spindle on reassembly and drilling
    a hole for a screw or a dowel would eliminate any holes I'd have to dig.
    Probably.

    So - how to dig the pins out? What I wanted, I reckoned, was a hollow
    drill bit. Hah. Nobody makes them, right? I thought about a nail
    punch, but the recess in the end is far too shallow. A tiny holesaw
    would be just the ticket, but 5mm diameter holesaws don't exist either.
    I have a set of leather punches ... somewhere ....

    I thought about drilling holes around the pin, with 1mm drill bits - but
    worried about wandering off or getting tied up with the pin and snapping
    the bit and nailing my leg, or producing a massive scratch in the
    varnished seat back. I considered Dremelling my way around the pin, but
    rejected that on the likelihood of Dremelling the bloody pin off - and
    the pin, I betcha, would go right through the spindle and into the front
    of the seat back and then I'd never get it out.

    I considered grabbing the spindle in Stillsons and twisting until the
    pin just ripped around - but the accurate machining and twenty-year-old
    crusty glue defeated that one, as I ended up with a spindle in many
    small pieces, some of which were in my hair. I smoked a lot of rollies
    and wore a small trench across the patio, considering this knotty
    problem.

    It occurred to me, thinking the process through, that I'd need to pull
    the pins once I'd excavated a trench around them, in the manner of a
    Japanese gardener preparing to move a cherry tree - so what to pull the
    pins with? Needlenose pliers seemed to be the answer, if I could grip
    the pin hard enough so as not to slip off - and manage to pull hard
    enough to extract the pin which had had prolly twenty years to set in
    place.

    In the end, I took my needlenose pliers, sat down on the step to my
    shed, placed the seat back on my knees and worried away at the wood
    around the pin. Holding the pliers jaws apart enough to just clear the
    pin, I rotated the ends of the jaws around the pin site, which produced
    tiny amounts of sawdust and wood fibres and e v e n t u a l l y produced
    a trench around the pin. It didn't look pretty and it was only a couple
    of mm deep, but I'd got a start - and a couple of blisters.

    Some time later, I had the end of the pin in sight - about 2mm of it, in
    a 5mm deep hole of 8mm diameter. I was also elbow-deep in blisters, of
    course. Following a celebratory smoke, I grabbed the end of the pin
    with my faithful needlenoses and pulled. SNICK! Slipped straight off.
    I took hold of the pliers handles as firmly as I could, got the best
    grip I could, and pulled ... HARD. SNIKK!! Slipped off again and I
    punched myself in the forehead - with the pliers handles.


    Once my eyes had stopped watering, I started digging with the pliers
    again. I'd given up caring about damage by this point and now the blood
    and plasma were flowing freely the pliers whizzed around carelessly. I
    rapidly and rather messily achieved a tapered hole all around the pin,
    with about 5mm of the pin protruding upwards from the base of the hole.
    Grabbing the pin once I again, I squeezed like a mofo, twisting and -
    vitally - levering against the side of the hole. The pin yielded and
    slid 3mm outwards. Big grin time. Discarding the needlenoses, I got my
    waterpump (slip joint) pliers around the pin and, levering against the
    chair back, curled the pin all the way out. 20mm long, the bloody thing
    was. It didn't half look silly, though - all bent and chewed at the
    end, lying deceased on the wood it had so successfully secured for all
    those years. I told it that.

    The next several pins were disposed of in a like manner, until all the
    joints that I need to dismantle were free - and it had only taken three
    days. I was going to need a better method - a further three bar stools
    were in need of attention. Turning up new spindles, fitting, glueing
    and screwing and clamping presented no few problems, but all very much
    in a minor key relative to the pin extraction problem.


    Anyway - today, I solved it.

    I have made, with my own bleeding hands, a hollow drill bit.

    Inspiration struck, when faced with the next stool which needed 14 pins
    removed and the blisters from the last one have only partly healed - and
    I still have two matched lumps on my forehead, which correspond to the
    handles of my needlenose pliers. I reasoned that I needed a bit of
    steel tube, see. Small diameter, soft enough to work, hard enough to
    cut through wood.

    A search of the usual places - workshop, garage, toolboxes - revealed
    nothing suitable: all too big or made of copper. Then, in the middle of
    a desperately inspiration-searching fag, came the answer. A robust
    rummaging in my old cantilever 'toolbox', which is more concerned with
    holding old exhaust clamps and random bolts than shiny spanners these
    days, turned up just what I had in mind - a slightly used roll pin.

    You all know what a roll pin is, right? They're used freely on cars and
    bikes to hold all manner of spigots in sockets, brake levers in pivots,
    that sort of thing. Made of a hard and brittle spring steel, looking
    like a slotted tube, you have to drive them out to separate your shaft,
    then squeeze and drive a new one in to reassemble.


    Pin digging out tool, Mark One. Take a roll pin of 5mm diameter and
    25mm length and holding one end, rotate the other end against the
    spinning wheel of the bench grinder, to produce a gently tapered end
    with a sharp leading edge. next, take a Dremel fitted with a diamond-
    coated steel cutting disc and chop a couple of narrow slots in the
    sharpened end, then a couple of angled slots adjoining ... teeth!
    Juggle the significantly hot little steel tube across to the cordless
    drill and insert in the chuck. Bingo.

    Take a comfy seat in the sunny garden, with the as-yet undismantled seat
    back on your lap, line up the hole in the centre of the PDOT#1 with the
    end of the barely-visible pin, locate and squeeze the drill trigger
    gently. Watch with wonder as it cuts a perfectly concentric hole all
    around the pin - and remember in the nick of time that you don't want to
    go all the way through the thing. Withdraw the cutter and leer
    suggestively at the pin, now exposed and protruding 5mm from the base of
    a wonderfully cleanly-cut, parallel-sided hole.

    Take a pair of needlenose pliers in the left hand and let the sides of
    the cylindrical hole guide the jaws closed on the pin, whilst with the
    slip-joint pliers in the right hand, gripping the needlenose pliers and
    squeezing them tightly shut on the shaft of the pin. The left hand is
    now free to steady the seat back while the right rotates the big pliers
    against it, efficiently levering the pin from its lodgement in one
    smooth squeeze.


    So, that's it. I am Man, I have made a Tool.


    Not only has this ginger tool made a stool tool, it works and it works
    so well that it has reduced the time taken to remove a pesky pin from an
    hour or more (including the self-infliction of concomitant injuries) to
    no more than five minutes with zero injuries and no unnecessary damage
    to the surround wood. The cylindrical hole produced by the PDOT#1 will
    neatly accommodate a 5mm fixing dowel or the shank of a woodscrew during
    reassembly. Sorted.

    I'm off to rip a couple more pins out, then I might brush off my
    dustcoat and sit and have a fag on the patio, I think.
     
    Pip, Sep 22, 2009
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    Krusty Guest

    *applause*
     
    Krusty, Sep 22, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Deserved.
     
    Colin Irvine, Sep 22, 2009
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  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip
    <doffs hat>

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 22, 2009
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    boxerboy Guest

    <affects mock accent as per bad 70's Kung fu film>

    Ah Master, teach me your secret, can you solve mystery of siezed in
    disc bolts on F650GS

    Boxerboy san
     
    boxerboy, Sep 22, 2009
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  6. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, boxerboy
    Ahh... No mystely. It is what it is. And it is a BMW. Mystely solved.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Sep 22, 2009
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    Tosspot Guest

    Pip wrote:

    My boggle is boggled! Was it really not possible to use a nail punch to
    push it through just enough to get a pair of mole grips on it?
     
    Tosspot, Sep 22, 2009
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  8. <Tips cap in a general home counties direction, and lights a
    celebratory marlboro light>

    Hope the back is better fella, I hear the clan are happy with the 360,
    glad to see it go to a good home - I'm missing it now !
     
    Brownz (via Gurgle Gruppez), Sep 22, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    The back's doing what it does - and I'm doing my best to ignore it, as
    usual. The little fella's currently punishing Mass Effect, even as I
    type. The bigger fella is getting into Forza in a big way ;-)

    Job's a good 'un.
     
    Pip, Sep 22, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    No, had to pull it out. To push a 25mm x 1mm pin through 5mm of wood on
    the backrest and more like 20mm on the legs would have been nigh
    impossible, I reckon. Not only that, but the tapered nature of even a
    small punch would have had to push a lot of wood out of the way. Bear
    in mind that a nail punch is only meant to push the head of a nail just
    below the surface - the pins have no head and there's a relatively long
    way to go to the other side.

    Believe me, if it had been feasible to do it without trying very hard -
    I'd have done it.
     
    Pip, Sep 22, 2009
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    Tosspot Guest

    Well, determination above and beyond the call of duty I'd say. Award
    yourself the Victoria Toolmaster with Bar!
     
    Tosspot, Sep 22, 2009
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    Paul - xxx Guest

    No forgiveness necessary, a damn good read!
    Deservedly so, nice one that man .. ;)
     
    Paul - xxx, Sep 22, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    <tips toupee>
     
    Pip, Sep 22, 2009
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  14. Prolly due to the subject line, IRTA "wore a small trench coat
    across the patio" AIMNSAA.
    Well done, dude, another 12 and you can make your own TV series
    about them, like the Beery Hikers.

    --
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    Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
    GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
    WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
    KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".
     
    Dr Ivan D. Reid, Sep 22, 2009
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    :)))

    Xmas is coming.
     
    Pip Luscher, Sep 22, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    Right! I've got this pump here which pumps diesel to my heater in the
    workshop. It's not working though. What do I do?

    It would appear you're *are* the man in GAMI.


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    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Sep 22, 2009
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    frag Guest

    Pip wibbled...
    Brilliant! Pixie Engineering at its very best.

    i can't help wondering if it would have been a lot quicker to go down to
    your local Oxfam shop and buy another load of chairs.

    But I know you're not the type of person to let a 25mmx1mm piece of
    metal beat you :)
     
    frag, Sep 23, 2009
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    SD Guest

    Well done, that chap.
     
    SD, Sep 23, 2009
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    boots Guest

    Oh I don't know old bean, well justified.>
    Well done.


    Flipping message tripped my it's too long filter so I ad to go back
    and find it.
     
    boots, Sep 23, 2009
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    <SNIP>

    In the unlikely event that I ever find myself on a manned space mission,
    remind me to check if you are part of the crew or back up team.

    Truly an Apollo 13 tale of furniture restoration.

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    Pete Fisher, Sep 23, 2009
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