Off off off off?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by T i m, Mar 7, 2009.

  1. T i m

    T i m Guest


    New to us, 99 Majesty 250 comes with Datatool System3 alarm. It seems
    to work. I got a second fob (cheap) and program it up ok etc etc.

    Fit new battery to bike last week sometime, go to start the bike
    yesterday, click click buzzz click. Jump start it off the old battery
    and away it goes first prod.

    So, take new battery off to charge, alarm goes off but only for about
    5 seconds? This suggests to me the internal alarm battery isn't
    charging because it's duff (hence low capacity) and I wonder if it's
    therefore drawing more current than it should (never reaching full
    charge etc) killing the bike battery quicker than alarms generally do?

    I could remove the main alarm fuse and measure the input current
    (should be circa 2-4mA I believe) or I could remove all the front
    plastics and take the thing out completely and stamp on it? It may not
    be the fault of course but given that it only sounds for a few seconds
    when the bike battery is removed but I'm feeling that it is.

    Out of interest, any idea how much insurance discount I would actually
    get having said alarm (living in Norf Lundin) as that was the only
    reason I considered leaving it on there in the fist place.

    Cheers, T i m
    T i m, Mar 7, 2009
  2. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Thanks, I'm going in now then ...

    There's a couple of things troubling / confusing me though.

    There is a round 'fitting' in the rhs top of the glove box that could
    be a light but could also be some sort of round touch sensor from an
    old alarm system or summat? I've not been able to get to the back of
    it to see how complicated it's wiring but I'll find out soon.

    Secondly, cable-tied to the front of the System3 is something that is
    about 10mm thick by 40 x 30 and with a thin 'extension' at one end
    (so it's silhouette looks like a old mobile phone). I *think* it's
    part of the alarm but the Tech guy at Datatool didn't seem to
    recognise it from my description. I was thinking it could be a
    'remote' movement sensor or the wireless receiver but again it could
    also be a standard part of the bike that just happened to be stuck in
    there with the alarm? Wen I get in there better and open it all up a
    bit I might get a better idea what it's part of.

    If you see smoke over Nth London ..... ;-(

    Cheers, T i m
    T i m, Mar 7, 2009
  3. Anough to pay for the alarm in about 300 years.
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 7, 2009
  4. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Ah, good. So that's another thumbs down then.

    Good job it won't cost me anything to take it out. ;-)

    Didn't get chance to look closer today, should do tomorrow (weather
    permitting). Today I was mainly delivering compressors and collecting
    25l of NATO green oxide, de-corroding the Maj rear wheel and
    overseeing daughter aciding the new battery for her MZ.

    T i m
    T i m, Mar 7, 2009
  5. T i m

    dog Guest

    not a bike
    dog, Mar 9, 2009
  6. T i m

    T i m Guest

    For the purposes of this thread it is AND the logbook classes it as a
    'Motorcycle', as does the insurance, the licence required to ride it
    and our total hatred of those who drive cages. ;-)

    It also complies with the getting soaked and cold when it rains and
    sliding down the road on yer arse when you or some other numpty gets
    it wrong bits.

    But I get yer point. How about 'semi recumbent', automatic, small
    wheeled motorcycle?

    T i m
    T i m, Mar 9, 2009
  7. T i m

    JackH Guest

    The Meta as fitted to the Fazer was pretty good actually.

    Datatool ones are the work of Satan himself though, IME.
    JackH, Mar 9, 2009
  8. T i m

    T i m Guest

    That seems to be the case here, however I think their tech support guy
    thought this might be a Valeo (?) alarm 'upgraded' to a System3.

    I don't suppose that's improved the situation though

    T i m
    T i m, Mar 9, 2009
  9. T i m

    dog Guest

    sounds a bit long winded to me. how about scooter, which is what everyone
    else says.
    dog, Mar 10, 2009
  10. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Ok, I'll play. ;-)

    I think scooter is longer than my original 'bike' though and isn't a
    scooter simply a sub division of the general genre of 'motor cycle' (
    motor bike > bike)? [1]

    If someone asked you about how you were going to get somewhere you
    might answer "by train / car / walk". If you answered "by bike" they
    could think you were going to cycle but might modify that thought
    based on the distances involved. Would you reply 'by scooter' if you
    thought they didn't care (or it didn't matter) about the detail (other
    than along the lines of could they have a lift etc).

    However, if someone here asked if you were going to a meet up and knew
    you had both a motor cycle and a motor scooter then you might answer
    "the scooter" as it might be pertinent.

    Sfunny, when daughter had her first scooter (125 Skipper) all her
    school mates initially referred to it as 'a ped', probably not
    realising that was short for moped and therefore a maximum of 50cc.

    Cheers, T i m

    [1] And I was talking about a bike alarm as opposed to a car, house or
    personal alarm. ;-)
    T i m, Mar 10, 2009
  11. T i m

    dog Guest

    in an ideal, rational world and all that.

    in that same ideal, rational world, since a hovercraft is technically an
    aircraft and you need a pilot's licence to drive one, if someone asked
    you how you were crossing the channel and you were crossing by hovercraft,
    you could say "by air" and they would be perfectly happy.

    in this world though, they might think you a liar, or at the very least
    deceptive or fraudulent.
    dog, Mar 10, 2009
  12. T i m

    T i m Guest

    Oh dear. ;-(
    Indeed ... but you wouldn't would you? You would say "by hovercraft"
    (or Hoverspeed to call it by a trade rather than actual machine name)
    in the same way as you would say "by ferry" (be that conventional
    ship, foil or cat etc) as opposed to "by train / Chunnel" or "flying"?

    And you would only say 'by hovercraft' note, not "Mountbatten class
    hovercraft, SR-N4"?
    Assuming they cared or it mattered of course. ;-)

    T i m
    T i m, Mar 10, 2009
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