No, beat him around the head, we're taking this one home as a trophy. Yawn
You are labouring under the misaprehension that teachers in private school are necessarily better. Hint: look at the requirements for employment in both cases.
Perzactly, my 2 have both gone through the state system and with a couple of exceptions the teaching has been good. They've both done well[1] and are IMO nice people. A lot of the children where I live are educated in local private schools[2] and again IMO often appear to be much less pleasant people. [1] I realise that this implies work from teachers, parents and most importantly the pupil but anyone could **** it up. [2] I reckon for here educating your children privately is a bit like having a new car, one up on the neighbours.
Ben Blaney says... Private schools have higher standards, that much is very obvious. My younger three children's maternal grandmother is a teacher. She started off working in the state system and was disgusted at the low standard of teaching in the schools she worked in. When she retired she had been at a private school for ten years, she was full of praise for the staff she encountered there.
Lozzo wrote This is true but mainly because of parents' expectations and support. I have worked in 2 state schools and 1 private school and by far the greatest difference is the parents. Usually the same, a degree followed by a post graduate certificate in education or alternatively a 4 year QTS (Qualified Teacher Status) degree. However, Private schools tend to be a bit more choosy when it comes to looking for staff, much more likely to employ staff who teach their specialist (ie teach the same subject their degree is in).
No, that's absolutely not true. You couldn't be further from the truth. You don't need /any/ qualifications to be a teacher in a private school. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zero. You know your dustman? He could be teaching your kids next term. In State schools there are minimum qualification requirements. The *only* thing better about a private school is a smaller class size. That's it. That's one anecdotal example. It doesn't add up to a whole lot.
Ben Blaney says... Certainly a higher standard of education. My kids, who are all quite clever, were being dragged down by the state system. Teachers who didn't care, or were just too busy trying to keep the not so clever kids under control. That doesn't happen where they are now and the kids can get on with learning. Do you really think that somewhere like Bedford School, or Bedford High School would take on unqualified teachers? And a much higher pass/grade rate come GCSE or A level time. The smaller classes are very important as well. My ex and I stand by what we did. Our kids are clever and they've been able to acheive far higher results so far than if they'd gone through the state system, of that I am 100% sure. They are also far more sociable and responsible than the other kids of the same age who live on the same road. Maybe a part of that is down to a good upbringing, but the schooling and level of discipline they get at school certainly helps. Don't get me wrong, Ben. I understand your mother is a prominent figure in state education in Essex and you've had vast experience of teachers in that area, but it may well be different in Bedfordshire. When I was at school I had a number of teachers who were excellent and did their level best with me, and I was a difficult pupil. But having spoken to a lot of teachers in the state system nowadays, they really don't care at all if their pupils do well or not. Half the time I'm amazed that they are teachers at all, I'd have put a lot of them down as having meat packing or any number of unskilled jobs. This isn't the feeling I get when talking to those teachers I encounter on a social level who teach in the private schools my kids attend. They are far happier and more willing to do a good job. I stand by what we did, it's been worth every penny to see our kids do well at school.
Hardly surprising though, is it. I'd like to think that if I was spending *that* much on my childs education, when I could in fact be getting it elsewhere for free, there would be more benefits in me doing so, other than my child having the school on their CV later in life.
You don't need /any/ qualifications to be a teacher in a private school. Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zero. This comment is correct in principle but it couldn't be further from reality. It is true to say that a Private school does not have to adhere to the state qualification requirements, but in reality their staff have much better qualifications because thee school has a better choice of the available employees. The state sector is struggling, especially in inner city schools, to employ science and mathematics teachers. More often than not they are now employing non-specialists to teach these subjects. That simpy isn't the case in the Private sector. However, that said, I still hold the view that the main difference, in my limited experience, is the parents. A schools success is governed by its intake.
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Yeah but Ben and Lozzo are both teachers in a Private School, whereas you are just using hearsay and things your grandmother told you.
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flash says... If I learnt one thing at the state school I attended, it was how to call someone a ****. I am doing that right now, ****
Hey don't get me wrong, I think it's great that you want your kids to avoid the same educational pitfalls that evidently befell you on your journey through the school system.
