Oh, I really, really hope...

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 22, 2009.

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    sweller Guest

    sweller, Dec 22, 2009
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    petrolcan Guest

    petrolcan, Dec 22, 2009
  4. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan
    Not at all. I read these bits too:

    "My advice, as a Christian priest, is to shoplift.

    I do not offer such advice because I think that stealing is a good
    thing, or because I think it is harmless, for it is neither."

    That's quite right. It is neither.

    "I would ask that they do not steal from small, family businesses, but
    from national businesses, knowing that the costs are ultimately passed
    on to the rest of us in the form of higher prices."

    Oh, that's OK then. Of course, my wife used to work for such a national
    business. She's been threatened by thieves in the past.

    "When people are released from prison, or find themselves suddenly
    without work or family support, then to leave them for weeks and weeks
    with inadequate or clumsy social support is monumental, catastrophic

    Oh, right on. After all, if you've been released from prison, then a
    little light thieving is absolutely the way forward.

    "We create a situation which leaves some people little option but

    And there was silly old me thinking we had a welfare state.
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 22, 2009
  5. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, sweller
    Because he is advocating stealing from others.
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 22, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I think you need to see him on tv and listen to what his actual point
    is before judging him.

    Actually, you wouldn't agree with him so don't bother.
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 22, 2009
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    Andrew998 Guest

    So, to be clear, his view is people should steal and your response to it is
    that people should steal. I can't quite see the logic or, indeed, the moral
    high ground in that one.
    Andrew998, Dec 22, 2009
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    petrolcan Guest

    petrolcan, Dec 22, 2009
  9. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andrew998
    Simple expediency. I hope that if someone is going to steal, they steal
    from him, since he'll understand why and not get upset.
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 22, 2009
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    Andrew998 Guest

    And you are probably right.
    Andrew998, Dec 22, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    He looks like the kind of **** who's done time too. What's the betting that
    at some point he'll confess to being an ex crim?


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    Beav, Dec 22, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    Well, theoretically, we do have a welfare state.

    Just don't ever try to take advantage of it, especially when you'd
    really need to, nor if you find yourself in need of urgent assistance.
    Pip, Dec 22, 2009
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    ginge Guest

    Which I suspect will kick in with the first payments in about 6 weeks.
    I hope everyone can survive eating snow and living in a wheelie bin
    until then.
    ginge, Dec 22, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    The Pipster has it on the head there. We know there are hordes who get
    carried along on the backs of state handouts but yet I don't know anyone who
    has fallen out of work and REALLY needed help.... who got any worth a damn.

    Perhaps it's like Old Money. You must be born into it.
    'Hog, Dec 22, 2009
  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ginge
    Surely the Church is there to help in such circumstances?
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Dec 22, 2009
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    Tim Guest

    It does. Apparently "the church" is the largest non-government provider
    of social welfare in the UK.
    Tim, Dec 22, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    But should that be so?
    ogden, Dec 22, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    Actually, immediately after release from prison things aren't so bad -
    Probation bods will make sure you've got somewhere to live and you
    will get some cash in advance for the first few weeks. I suspect it's
    after that that things get bad - when trying to live something
    approaching a life with no job skills and no group of friends except
    the old firm, as it were.

    Going back to crime is not generally a result of absolute poverty, but
    more that it's the only way they know that lifts them that level
    Ace, Dec 22, 2009
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    Doki Guest

    On the other hand, if you lose your job, you will be waiting weeks for your
    first dole payments. As far as I can see, the system is set up to deal with
    people who are likely to be on benefits for ever. You sign on, get a council
    house and that's you set for life.
    Doki, Dec 22, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    I rent a garage in NI from a friend who is responsible for crisis loans. You
    are quite correct and indeed supporting these cunts is why decent folk who
    fall on bad times get nothing. The system has already been sucked dry.

    Uninhabited Scottish island. Napalm. YKIMS
    'Hog, Dec 22, 2009
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