Oh joy

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. Simon Wilson

    wessie Guest

    worse, Obama wants to send people to Illinois. At least it's warm in Cuba.
     
    wessie, Dec 28, 2009
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  2. Simon Wilson

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    The biggest laugh was that I really had been involved in setting off
    explosives in remote parts of Pakistan because I was working for a
    company doing seismic exploration out there. The discussion took place
    about 2 or 3 years before 9-11 and I'd never heard of the mighty Bin
    Liner at that time.

    You're right though, I'd have been wearing orange overalls if I took
    the piss like that these days. It certainly helps me sleep at night to
    know someone's worrying about me like that.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 28, 2009
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  3. Simon Wilson

    Cab Guest

    Urm, I believe it's the other way round. The Israelis are supposed to be
    pretty cool about Arabic passports. OTOH Arabic countries that haven't
    officially recognised Israel are a PITA.

    Mind you, they don't also recognise Palestine, so it's equally difficult
    for Palestinians to travel to Arabic countries.
     
    Cab, Dec 28, 2009
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  4. Simon Wilson

    Cab Guest

    I had two at one stage, for exactly that reason.
     
    Cab, Dec 28, 2009
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  5. Simon Wilson

    Cab Guest

    I've heard that you can ask to have the Israel stamp on a piece of paper and
    not in the passport. Dunno if it's true or not though.
     
    Cab, Dec 28, 2009
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  6. Simon Wilson

    Simon Wilson Guest

    I've flown out of Tel Aviv many times and never had a huge problem. The
    questioning is a pita but most of the time I had young kids who seemed
    to be learning their trade. There's no point in lying or, as I heard one
    time, claiming that the information was 'confidential'. That particular
    individual was subjected to several hours questioning and had to get the
    next day's flight.

    The strangest thing I found was that you are apparently not allowed to
    take photos out of the 'plane window. I wonder what they think of Google
    earth? No doubt they have some 'agreement' with Google.
     
    Simon Wilson, Dec 28, 2009
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  7. Simon Wilson

    ogden Guest

    You can, but I've had mixed reports about it. Sometimes they're fine
    with it, and figure any problem is due to another country acting up.
    Other times they get shirty and want to know why you have a problem with
    anyone knowing you've been to Israel.

    Of course this only works at sea and air ports. Land borders are
    trickier - if you have an Egyptian exit stamp from a Sinai border
    crossing it's pretty obvious where you went next, whether you have an
    Israeli entry stamp or not. And if you don't, that apparently sets alarm
    bells ringing.
     
    ogden, Dec 28, 2009
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  8. Simon Wilson

    platypus Guest


    "Palestinian-Americans: U.S. citizens who have a Palestinian Authority ID
    number or whom the Government of Israel considers to have residency status
    in the West Bank or Gaza are advised to read this section very carefully.

    It is possible that Israeli authorities would consider as Palestinian anyone
    who has a Palestinian Identification number, was born in the West Bank or
    Gaza, or was born in the United States but has parents or grandparents who
    were born or lived in the West Bank or Gaza. Any such U.S. citizens may be
    required to travel to Israel using their Palestinian Authority passport,
    regardless of whether they hold U.S. citizenship. Without the Palestinian
    Authority passport, these Americans may be barred from entering or exiting
    Israel, the West Bank or Gaza, or they may face serious delays at the ports
    of entry.

    Individuals who hold a Palestinian Authority ID, as well as persons judged
    by Israeli authorities to have claim to a Palestinian Authority ID by virtue
    of ancestry, will be considered subject to Israeli law and to regulations
    that Israel applies to residents of the West Bank and Gaza, regardless of
    whether they also hold U.S. citizenship. In most cases, such individuals
    will be required by Israeli authorities to enter the West Bank via the
    Allenby Bridge (also known as King Hussein Bridge) border crossing with
    Jordan, rather than entering Israel via Ben Gurion International Airport
    unless they obtain a transit permit for that purpose in advance. Even if
    they have entered Israel via Ben Gurion Airport, they may be required to
    depart via the Allenby Bridge. Upon arrival at any of the Ports of Entry,
    such persons may wish to consider asking Israeli immigration authorities
    from where they will be required to depart."



    http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1064.html
     
    platypus, Dec 28, 2009
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  9. Simon Wilson

    Stephen Guest


    Hey, it might have been more than 3 hours. It was 10 years ago and to
    be honest I had to think hard (and check an old passport) to remember
    what time of year it was.

    This was back in the good ol' pre-911 days when I'd regularly manage
    to turn up to airports 30 or 40 minutes before flights (hand luggage
    only) and still manage to get on the plane.

    Happy days and all that.
     
    Stephen, Dec 28, 2009
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  10. Simon Wilson

    Cab Guest

    Quite. Even if Egypt is one of a handful of countries recognising Israel,
    they still don't like their stamps apparently.
     
    Cab, Dec 28, 2009
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  11. I boggled a bit at this...
    url:http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/12/16/0159251
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 29, 2009
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