Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mick Whittingham, Mar 6, 2011.

  1. Oil shortage WHAT OIL SHORTAGE!
    We are being charged more and more at the pumps for our fuel or heating
    oil and being told it is the problems of the likes of Libya.


    Oil is still being exported from Libya at the moment with a 60%
    Or if you have access to the FT:

    And Saudi is making up the short fall. What it lacks in light crude we
    have in the North Sea.

    Add to this non shortage shocker that there are at the moment nearly 6
    weeks of light and heavy crude supplies available to the market in

    Then there is this, the group of oil tankers at anchor off of Lowestoft
    and Southwold (East Anglia coast), some of which have been there since
    the Tunisian rising. Every few days changing or removing their ETA data,
    or moving out and back again or just anchor dragging (turns the red
    diamond to an arrow but not going anywhere. They are waiting for the oil
    price to go up higher before they dock


    The Lowestoft guys are working all hours keeping the tankers supplied
    with pallets of fresh food, mail etc., and off loading small quantities
    of oil to pay for their up keep. (A good well paid job if you can get

    Oil shortage WHAT OIL SHORTAGE!

    The government don't care because the higher the price at the pumps,
    the more they make in tax and VAT.

    Rant over, sorry about that.

    I feel better now!
    Mick Whittingham, Mar 6, 2011
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  2. Mick Whittingham escribió:

    Heh. Here, they've reduced the speed limit to 110km/h "to save fuel".

    They're also switching street lights off. Ho hum.
    Paul Carmichael, Mar 6, 2011
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  3. I idly noticed the two counters at the diesel pump didn't seem to be
    running at their normal rates - fucking 148.9c/L this morning. Cunts.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 6, 2011
  4. That's Euros I take it? Ouch.

    I thought the 133.9 I paid earlier this week was bad, until I saw the
    petrol priced at 161.9.
    doetnietcomputeren, Mar 6, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    There's a lot more Jags parked at my local car sales emporium I

    The Land Rovers / Range Rovers will be next :)

    zymurgy, Mar 6, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    Chap from work is due to take his car [1] to Le Mans in a couple of
    weeks for an owners-club meet. Apparently, it's not the done thing to
    trailer the cars there.

    It does 8mpg

    [1] space-framed special of some variety with a tuned V8 to power it
    Gyp, Mar 6, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest


    When I renew the Vectra insurance it'll be for <3k miles p.a. this time.

    Having said that, I was reading about ancient GP cars earlier on and
    came across some fuel consumption figures for the Alfa Romeo 159, which
    was almost completely dominant in 1950/51. They were in that metric,
    so I had a guess, then a rough calc and a boggle, so I got a calculator
    out and did it properly.

    OK, so they'd designed and built a racing engine that was capable of
    winning a lot of races, so it was pokey and reliable but boy, was it
    thirsty. 2.6 miles per gallon, running methanol to keep the valves
    from melting their way out of the top end. Mind you, they were getting
    425 [email protected] rpm out of a twin-supercharged V8, but it was only 1500cc.

    The consumption was so poor, they had to install fuel tanks alongside
    the cockpit in addition to the rear end of the car being one big tank.
    This gave them a total capacity of 225 litres - but that's almost a
    qurter of a ton of fuel (in a car weighing 750kg dry) and they still
    had to refuel halfway through the race, with all the fun and games and
    invisible flames that entailed. So a total consumption of ~450 litres
    per race, of methanol. Explosively expensive - but I suppose if the
    car didn't finish, they could always get pissed on it.
    SIRPip, Mar 6, 2011

  8. What are you some sort of turncoat fucking liberal sympathiser or
    something? Fine when it is fine but as quick as shit to do a bit of
    loyalty changing the moment the weathercock turns a bit.

    You must remember that the days of the firing squad for those who
    profiteer during wartime are over and Dave has to consider his priorities.
    He has to wait a bit until his banker/broker mates have made a sizeable
    profit before he can do anything about it and once they have he will knock
    a halfpenny of your income tax probably 2 weeks before the local council
    elections and walking to the polling station will be good for your heart.
    steve auvache, Mar 6, 2011
  9. Probably got fucked in the CNS from the fumes, never mind drinking it.
    dodgy old stuff, that meths.
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 6, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    There are contemporary accounts of people in the vicinity of the pit
    lane being irritated by the fumes: headaches, dizziness, nausea, that
    sort of thing. Pit crews were apparently overcome from time to time,
    but regularly suffering bouts of vomiting, insomnia, muscle spasms (the
    blame for some of the refuelling 'incidents' was laid at these) and
    cramps ... apart from being assailed by unpleasant visions of creatures
    coming out of the walls and such.

    Dodgy old stuff, as you say. Difficult to see the flames when the
    bloody stuff is burning, too.
    SIRPip, Mar 6, 2011
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    JackH Guest

    Does that make that much of a difference then?

    I've punched fairly low mileages into online quote jobbies in the
    recent past and found little or no difference.

    The only place it's made that much of a difference is when I've had
    quotes on one of the chariots from a place that specialises in classic
    insurance, as in the price is getting for two fifths what it would
    cost to insure on a standard policy, but they insist on a 3k mileage

    (Classic policy on something not quite 20 years old - apparently
    they'll quote for higher mileages once the heap concerned is over
    JackH, Mar 6, 2011
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    Gyp Guest

    Sounds like a weekend spannering for Team UKRM
    Gyp, Mar 6, 2011
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    zymurgy Guest

    Sounds like some *OSM's i've been to ...

    zymurgy, Mar 6, 2011
  14. Sounds like *all* the *osms I've been to.
    steve auvache, Mar 6, 2011
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    Cab Guest

    doetnietcomputeren wibbled forthrightly:
    It's just gone over the €1.60 mark for 98 over here too. :-/
    Cab, Mar 6, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    That's a pretty poor exchange rate.
    SIRPip, Mar 7, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    Now you mention it ....

    But the wall creatures, they were real. Smelled of wee and moved with
    the Cordura rustle, most of them.
    SIRPip, Mar 7, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    Now you mentions it ....
    SIRPip, Mar 7, 2011
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    SIRPip Guest

    I rang 'em up. Aviva, the AA and even Direct Line all shaved a few
    quid off if I offered to limit the mileage. Only a few quid, mind, but
    it all counts, right?

    I was feeling particularly mean at the time and the heap isn't worth a
    bean, there days, not with the price of petrol and everybody knows they
    drink like demented fish. Saved forty quid by going TPFT for the first
    time in 30 years, the AA undercut the RAC by 10%, Quidco gave me
    another tenner and I saved ~60% by waiting a couple of days and then
    going for a separate breakdown package.

    Ten days after spunking 400 quid on a new clutch, the AA sent me a
    brochure offering mechanical insurance for a cut-price fifty quid, the
    bloody oiks.
    SIRPip, Mar 7, 2011
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    If only. The days of the 70 pence Euro seem gone forever. Time was I
    would top up the tank on the approach back to Calais.

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