Ok, now I'm thinking about IT (not I.T.)

Discussion in 'Classic Motorcycles' started by Pete M, Jul 22, 2004.

  1. Pete M

    Pete M Guest

    Having just managed to wangle my way into a new job I've come to the way of
    thinking that maybe, just maybe, I should become a biker..

    as far as I can see, the plus points are as follows;

    Less time to get to work (50 mile commute)
    don't have to pay to go through the Mersey Tunnel
    probably more economical than any of my cars

    the negatives seem to be these..

    I don't have a bike licence, and I'm not too hot on a motorbike
    all that palaver putting leathers on in the morning etc
    No CD player, and the constant risk of a scenery / me interface.


    I'm thinking it'll cost about £500 to pass my bike test, a few hundred more
    for leathers, gloves and a lid, and about £1500 for a bike capable of
    getting me to and from work without major mechanical mishaps. Is this a
    reasonable estimate?

    I'd like a bike that's reasonably comfy, handles well, is fun to ride, goes
    alright, and is reliable. I don't want a full on sprots bike, but something
    that's not too lardy. People have suggested I should get a ZZR1100, but I
    suspect that's cos they'd have a sweepstake on how long before I killed
    myself.. VFR 750s have also been suggested.

    Any hints?


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    Pete M

    Ford Capri - Mercedes 500 SEL - Sierra XR4x4
    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jul 22, 2004
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    Pete M Guest

    In
    and yes, I meant to post this to UKRM
     
    Pete M, Jul 22, 2004
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    Oldbloke Guest

    Nice little CB500

    Suits you sir

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    My NEW bike 1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr
    My old Bike 2000 Honda CB500 (for sale)
    M'boy's Bike 1990 Suzuki TS50X (Heavily fortified)

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD #26
     
    Oldbloke, Jul 22, 2004
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    I noticed that Message-ID:
    You also forgot the small matter of 'Winter'.

    Ok,...I'm a wimp.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Jul 22, 2004
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    Pete M Guest

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    Heh, winter hadn't been forgotten, but I'll have wangled a nice, warm
    company car by then..
    not the only one.


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    Pete M

    Ford Capri - Mercedes 500 SEL - Sierra XR4x4
    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jul 22, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    Naah, you'll be addicted to Making Progress by then.

    Her Esteemed Ellyness was prepared to take the car last Winter, but
    did (thinks hard) once, I think. She had (thinks harder) two days off
    when there was several inches of snow lying and the road was like
    glass and cars were sliding everywhere, so she stayed at home.

    If you get the right warm waterproof gear, chilly weather is no
    obstacle. Car-type traffic seems to increase in wet weather anyway,
    increasing jams, so making an even more convincing argument for taking
    the bike.

    Bikes *rock*, mate.
    You don't know yet - wait till you give it a go.
     
    Pip, Jul 22, 2004
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  7. Yes for test, yes for clothing, no for bike - you can get a decent
    commuter for a lot less than that.
    You are joking? Pass your test and onto a VFR750?

    Assuming you can afford the insurance, you'll kill yourself. You have no
    *idea* of the performance of a modern motorcycle. Top whack about 150,
    give or take. But that's not the point - a VFR will accelerate 0-60 in
    maybe 3 seconds. It gathers speed in a way that your Capri doesn't. Not
    even the Merc will prepare you for how fast you can be travelling when
    you do

    *THAT*

    to the throttle.

    Pass your test, buy something smaller, amass some valuable time
    acquiring experience and getting over the crash threshold[1] and then
    buy a bigger bike.

    [1] You will crash. Every learner does. Whether it happens at 50-60 or
    120-130 depends on what bike you're learning on.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2004
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    SteveH Guest

    Yamaha Divvy 600, for example.

    They rock as long-ish distance all-weather commuters.

    Did 70k on mine - was well on it's way to 90k miles on the clock when I
    sold it.

    Might be dull, but cheap, reliable and fast enough to scare yourself on
    it.
     
    SteveH, Jul 22, 2004
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    Mike Fleming Guest

    Do you want some sort of weather protection? Would a small fairing be
    sufficient if you do? That would put you in early Bandit 600
    territory, some of which had bikini fairings, and another two or three
    hundred gets you a Fazer 600. Or there's the old jellymould CBR600s.

    Or maybe go classic - the CX500 was the comfiest bike I ever rode...
     
    Mike Fleming, Jul 22, 2004
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  10. I haven't seen a decent clean CX500 for years.....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 22, 2004
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    I noticed that Message-ID:
    I just remembered why I keep discouraging my son.

    That and the fact that he wants a Vespa.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Jul 22, 2004
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    Loz H Guest

    Pete M <> spewed forth the
    following...

    <snip>

    Sir wants a nice CB200, sir does. The sight of you wobbling down my road
    after we rebuilt the top-end on mine will remain with me for the rest of my
    days. :eek:)

    Before you go spending all that cash, go out and score yourself a nice
    little CG125 [1]. As economical as the day is long and will potter along
    until judgement day.

    See how you get along with that first. Also handy for invaluable practise
    whilst you gear up for your DAS. If you just want something to potter along
    to work and back on you may well find it`s all you need.

    For something a little more substantial but cheap, reliable and fast enough,
    you can`t go far wrong with a nice little CB500.

    [1] Makes sign of the holy pushrods.
     
    Loz H, Jul 22, 2004
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    Pete M Guest

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    I've had a few goes on a GSX-R 750, and I know I don't need something even
    remotely that quick..
    Valid point.. I've driven a few *very* quick cars and there's no farkin way
    I'd want to go even slightly that quick on a bike.. hence not going insane
    on the GSX-R. Still way outta my league and not something I'm after..
    That's the general plan... I take it a Cagiva Elephant thing is a bad idea
    then....


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    Pete M

    Ford Capri - Mercedes 500 SEL - Sierra XR4x4
    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jul 22, 2004
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    Pete M Guest

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    I thank you for reminding me of that... it's them gear things innit? I'm
    fine on a scooter :eek:)
    but, but.....
    Actually, I'm fond of your 550/4.. CIHAGM?


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    Pete M

    Ford Capri - Mercedes 500 SEL - Sierra XR4x4
    COSOC #5
    Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain
     
    Pete M, Jul 22, 2004
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  15. ain't no such animal any more, all the despatchers got at 'em :)

    mind, there's a very tidy CX650 turbo which occasionally appears at the
    caff.

    summat like a GS500, GT550 (kwak one...), GSX550 makes a nice intro bike.
    fast enough to make decent progress, but easy enough to ride and relatively
    undemanding.
     
    Austin Shackles, Jul 22, 2004
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    CBR600s make a good all round introduction
    to larger motorcycles. Loads of em about
    too. They're farly benign, yet still allow
    you to 'push on' a bit as your experience
    increases.

    ****** I can't believe I'm recommending a Honda.

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    Alex Ferrier, Jul 23, 2004
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    deadmail Guest

    You're old.
     
    deadmail, Jul 23, 2004
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    Champ Guest


    I haven't seen a decent clean CX500 for years.....[/QUOTE]

    I've never seen one :)
     
    Champ, Jul 23, 2004
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    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake Geoff Berrow unto the assembled multitudes:
    "Over the side with 'im!" :)
     
    Andy Clews, Jul 23, 2004
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    PeterT Guest

    Geoff Berrow
    Don't believe everything the ol' fogey mumbles. I never crashed
    and I wouldn't call myself a learner anymore, at least not in
    the context TOG's talking about.

    What does the milkman ride?
     
    PeterT, Jul 23, 2004
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