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Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by George W Frost, Apr 20, 2010.

  1. George W Frost

    Lee Guest

    Lee, Apr 25, 2010
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  2. I was not anywhere near pedestrian lights. The people he hit were
    crossing at green pedestrian lights. The point is still he simply
    should not have been traveling that fast in a built up area.

    And cars are required to give way to pedestrians regardless of whether
    they are crossing illegally or not.

    Kev
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 26, 2010
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  3. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    Ahh; you mean the post-avoiding-Kev, cyclist careening out of control
    into the innocent pedestrians bit.
    Yep, there was a green light there that I missed.
    My bad; I should've written "Relevance Failure" or "Sequence of Events
    Failure" or something more accurate.
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  4. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    Yes, so are bicycles.
    Of course; he DID manage to give way to you. Due to his somewhat heroic
    effort your way was totally unimpeded thus he broke no law.

    The only law-breaker there was the jaywalker.
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  5. George W Frost

    F Murtz Guest

    Is it illegal to walk across the road?
    Where was jaywalking mentioned?
     
    F Murtz, Apr 26, 2010
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    Marts Guest

    !!::!!:: wrote...
    Or have locked clamps around their feet...
     
    Marts, Apr 26, 2010
    #46
  7. In aus.motorcycles on Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:06:24 +1000
    It is if you are within a certain distance of a marked crossing and
    are not using that crossing.

    Whether this was the case has not been mentioned.

    IT is also required that the ped cross safely and with due care for
    any lawful traffic which doesn't seem to ahve been done. The traffic
    was lawful, and as far as I can tell the ped was not paying attention
    to what was happening on the road he was crossing.

    I find it very difficult to believe the bike was doing 60kmh on a
    small suburban street, takes a while for a pushy to get to that speed
    on the flat.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Apr 26, 2010
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  8. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    Not when there's no traffic no. Stepping out in front of a moving
    vehicle is illegal though.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking
    "Jaywalking is an informal term commonly used in the USA to refer to
    illegal or reckless pedestrian crossing of a roadway. Examples include a
    pedestrian crossing between intersections (outside a crosswalk, marked
    or unmarked) without yielding to drivers (snip)

    Seems the appropriate word to me.
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  9. I did not step in front of a moving vehicle. I was almost at the other
    side of the road. And there is no SMIDSY here. For **** sake I know
    how to cross a road and I also know this dude was travelling at
    inappropriate speeds for the area he was in. Can't you get that
    through your head? If I go to cross a highway and someone comes around
    a sweeper travelling at 250km/h then no, I am not going to be able to
    predict that and he is the one in the wrong. Unfortunately I'd
    probably be the dead one.

    I am NOT in the habit of stepping in front of traffic. Ye gods. Dunno
    why I bother replying.

    Kev
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 26, 2010
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  10. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    So there's no SMIDSY and yet a cyclist magically materialised out of
    thin air and nearly skittled you.
    He saw you and swerved to avoid you yet you had not an inkling he was
    there until he was past you.
    How come attentive-careful-you couldn't see him Kev? (And more
    importantly, why do you imagine that all this is *HIS* fault?)
    Inability to see the obvious?
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  11. George W Frost

    G-S Guest

    However if the pedestrian walks when the pedestrian walk signal is red
    the situation IS different and the driver isn't automatically at fault.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Apr 26, 2010
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  12. George W Frost

    G-S Guest

    Yes but the legal situation if they hit them is different.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Apr 26, 2010
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  13. I'll explain this one last time for the dense in here then give up.

    I'm walking down the road and an F111 comes in under ground following
    radar at 700km/h. Oops SMIDSY.
    Appropriate fucking speeds for appropriate environments. He was not
    doing that.
    Obviously with you.

    Kev
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Apr 26, 2010
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  14. George W Frost

    Marty H Guest

    was that a F-111C or the D?

    seeing the F-111D had the newer Mark II avionics, he should have seen
    you and thus avoided the situation

    mh
     
    Marty H, Apr 26, 2010
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  15. Not very many if it was going underground
     
    George W Frost, Apr 26, 2010
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    BT Humble Guest

    Nah Johno, the F111C was the one we bought in the sixties, where the
    ignition key switch was in the dash. The F111D has it on the steering
    column.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Apr 26, 2010
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  17. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    Hah hah must've been the D as it *did* manage to avoid the Kevstroller!
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  18. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    Truth is you have no idea what speed he was doing Kev, because you
    didn't even *look* until after he had already avoided you, did you?
    *S*orry *M*ate *I* *W*as *T*oo *S*tupid *T*oo *L*ook *A*t *Y*ou!

    (But I love the "pedal-powered-vehicle-was-obviously-speeding" defence)
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  19. George W Frost

    Lars Chance Guest

    And a full-synchro four-on-the-floor!
     
    Lars Chance, Apr 26, 2010
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  20. George W Frost

    Marty H Guest

    time to give it up mate...

    mh
     
    Marty H, Apr 26, 2010
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