Old Press & 550/4s

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by 'Hog, Sep 27, 2005.

  1. 'Hog

    'Hog Guest

    I happened on this rather nice middleweight SOB comparison. There are
    a few other good bits in the index mainly about Kwak triples..

    I was looking as there is quite a clean 550/4 on eBay close by

    Specifically I was looking for a nice SOB falling in under the 33bhp
    limit for a new rider. The 550 seems to be just over. I seem to recall
    that you had one recently TOG? did you like it? what were the ups and
    downs of it.

    'Hog, Sep 27, 2005
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    Guest Guest

    I've got a restrictor kit for an R80 (with paperwork) if that helps :)

    TBH, it makes almost no difference in town traffic. Does on the open
    road though. 5 mins. per side to fit.


    Guest, Sep 27, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    I don't think the R80 is a good 1st bike really, bit quirky to ride.
    Where does one get these restrictor kits? Someone might do one for
    the 550/4

    'Hog, Sep 27, 2005
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    platypus Guest


    I remember reading this years ago...
    platypus, Sep 27, 2005
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    Guest Guest

    I don't think the R80 is a good 1st bike really, bit quirky to ride.[/QUOTE]

    It's quirky to put on the side stand :( but I love actually riding it.
    Looked at the ad (550-4)- that's definitely at the nice end of the SOB
    scale. It's in NI though - might cost a bit to fetch.

    IIRC the restrictor kit came from Germany (it's to a DIN standard and
    the paperwork was in German). I'll see if I can dig it out. I'm fairly
    certain they're available for a wide range of bikes. The one for the
    Beemer is basically just a pair of calibrated washers - with a fancy
    certificate, of course. 's good coz it has no effect really at small
    throttle openings. At a guess it reduces the inlet area by about 50%,
    but I'd have to measure the manifold to be sure.

    Still puzzled about what's odd about the BM...


    Guest, Sep 27, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    A friend is selling his wife's Guzzi V35, which is under the 33bhp limit.
    He's in Edinburgh:

    platypus, Sep 27, 2005
  7. Quite a bit over, actually.
    I've had several. The best is the four-piper K model, because they
    changed the carbs on that one, and cured the dreadful fuel economy which
    is the worst thing about the 550. Expect mid-to-high 30s otherwise.

    That apart, as fast as the 750 really, handles much better, more torque
    than the 400. Roomier than the 400, too.

    Nice bike - but the 400 is better.
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 27, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    Thinking about a 1st bike, my Bandit was in a small local dealer
    yesterday getting all the gay blue brake/clutch lines replaces with
    some righteously black Goodridge and I noticed a Jap import Honda CB1
    400cc. It was certainly a nice low seat height and felt very light,
    suitable for a 5'4" female. Does anyone know owt about these??
    completely outside my ken. Around 8000km or miles and £1000ono

    'Hog, Sep 28, 2005
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    SteveH Guest

    CBR400 engine in a less radical frame, ISTR. I remember a lot of 'em
    being used by couriers at one point. That sounds like a bloody good
    price for one of those, but it's years since I looked at 'em.
    SteveH, Sep 28, 2005
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    TOG Guest


    My favourite part of that US review is this sum-up of the Honda CB500T:

    "Ranking last, with one of its two below-1.0 category averages, is the
    Honda CB500T. It earned it with a conspiracy of shortcomings that can
    only be defined as magnificent.

    The 500 has everything and does everything necessary to guarantee that
    your teeth will be clenched and your knuckles white at the end of an
    even moderate lunge at a winding road.

    It has no system to mute the wicked vibrations coming from the vertical
    parallel twin engine; its brakes both feel mushy compared to the brake
    systems on the six other bikes; it is afflicted with a near-terminal
    case of drive-line snatch that's severe enough to make smooth riding a
    practical impossibility in any situation calling for throttle
    modulation; clutch engagement is grabby; the footpegs are too far
    forward, and stick out too far; the rear brake lever drags brutally
    going around right-hand corners, and the linkage is designed so that
    every movement of the swing arm causes movement of the brake lever; the
    bike's stability goes to hell whenever it's faced with a turn with a
    bump in it, or a bump with a turn on it."

    Excellent. I see there's a tidy one on Ebay which is already over
    £700. ISTR I flogged my very tidy one to Niall for £450, after trying
    to persuade him not to buy it. He ran it for a year and flogged it for
    £425, and we both agreed it was one of the nastiest motorcycles that
    Honda ever, but ever, made.
    TOG, Sep 28, 2005
  11. Yes, even nastier.

    And I've owned a CJ250.
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 28, 2005
  12. I know someone who's got one. reckoned to be dead nice. not sure if the
    engine's detuned compared with a baby blade.
    Austin Shackles, Sep 29, 2005
  13. So have I, briefly. underpowered, but that's mainly 'cos the bike was
    designed to be a 360. Hmmm. wonder what happened to it? I flogged it to a
    bloke in Port Talbot for 50 quid, and thought I'd got a result.
    Austin Shackles, Sep 29, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    What, _he_ gave _you_ 50 quid?
    Too right.

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    Ace, Sep 29, 2005
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    'Hog Guest

    Well I've urinated over one

    'Hog, Sep 29, 2005
  16. LOL.

    Makes sense. Actually, the CJ was better than the G5 which preceded it,
    and that despite not having an electric starter and only five gears. Oh,
    and a cheapo 2-1 exhaust.

    Which tells you, I suppose, just how awful the G5 was.
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 29, 2005
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    Jeremy Guest

    As a 13 yr old (at the time!) I used to regard the G5 as the sensible
    choice among the 250s that I planned to buy when I eventually reached
    17! 4-stroke reliability, 6 gears, electric boot just not as quick as
    the 2-stroke competition.

    It is true that ignorance is indeed bliss.


    '01 Triumph Sprint ST in green
    jeremy0505 at gmail.com
    Jeremy, Sep 29, 2005
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    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake The Older Gentleman unto the assembled multitudes:
    What about the G4? A mate of mine had one, which seemed OK but which
    didn't make it around a tight bend, threw itself and him over a hedge, and
    burnt his bum when the bike landed on top of him. It also had those
    ghastly early Bridgestone tyres which slid the bike down the road if the
    road was even slightly damp.
    Andy Clews, Sep 29, 2005
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    Andy Clews Guest

    Thus spake Jeremy unto the assembled multitudes:
    Another mate of mine had a G5, too. Harmless and gutless. The bike
    was much the same too :)

    My brother-in-law had a CJ. That seemed to have "economy model" written
    all over it.
    Andy Clews, Sep 29, 2005
  20. K4, ITYF.
    I rather liked the K4.....
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 29, 2005
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